carmudgeons.com  

Go Back   carmudgeons.com > Automotive Forums > Car Talk > Perseverators Anonymous

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-03-2021, 05:07 PM   #1661
equ
Alphanumeric
 
equ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Carmudgeonly Ride: 981S, 340i
Posts: 9,584
I'm partial to 997.2's, had one and would have one again. The 991.1's that I have drive all drove a bit better: more front grip, more wheelbase -> calmer but that doesn't erase the 997 just as the 981 doesn't erase the 987. I would say the ride/handling improvement is greater for the 997 to 991 than on the mid-engined cars, but the same steering feel loss is there as well.
equ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021, 10:54 PM   #1662
SCA
Jaded
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,043
I have recently located a manual 997.2 C2S. PPI and DME over-rev report pending mid month. Fingers crossed…
SCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2021, 10:17 AM   #1663
robg
Carmudgeon
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,243
Dial 911

Quote:
Originally Posted by JST View Post
Oh, I disagree. I actually think the proportions of the 996 are really nice (though the headlights, taillights, and interior are gross). The 997 is just about perfect.



The 991/992 are too blobbish for my taste. They're basically 928s but without the stylistic courage.

Ha! Hard for me to see where the 991 is more blobbish. I think the 996 was “peak blob”. I think I prefer the shorter front and rear overhangs plus the sleeker roofline of the 991. The rear end looks better as well with sleeker more modern tail lights. Arguably, those characteristics probably make it “less 911” but I’m not enough of a purist to care.

I haven’t seen enough 992s in person to form a strong opinion yet. If I have an issue with them it’s all the black plastic on the front and rear. I’m sure they can be mitigated with enough $$$$


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
robg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2021, 02:11 PM   #1664
SCA
Jaded
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,043
Quote:
Originally Posted by robg View Post
I haven’t seen enough 992s in person to form a strong opinion yet. If I have an issue with them it’s all the black plastic on the front and rear. I’m sure they can be mitigated with enough $$$$
I have seen a couple 992s around town and while I do not have an issue with the 991 I certainly prefer 992. Unfortunately to get the seven speed manual you have got to buy/order the C2S and my specs were $155k. I am not a player at that number. Plus they are both much larger than what I want for a weekend sports car.
SCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2021, 02:35 PM   #1665
JST
195
 
JST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 24,611
I think I’ve managed to work through my desire for a 911. I wouldn’t turn down a GT3 of any generation, but the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that the Boxster/Cayman is just the better sports car, if you don’t need the back seats.

Of course the prices haven’t hurt in helping me reach peace with the Boxster. But also a) only the very fastest 911s are faster than my family car, and I’ve come to understand that fast mostly doesn’t matter that much beyond a certain point, and b) lemmings experience with the Turbo S and the 987 convince me that if I can only have one, I’d rather have the 987.
JST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2021, 03:06 PM   #1666
lemming
Western Anomaly
 
lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca
Posts: 16,611
Quote:
Originally Posted by JST View Post
I think I’ve managed to work through my desire for a 911. I wouldn’t turn down a GT3 of any generation, but the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that the Boxster/Cayman is just the better sports car, if you don’t need the back seats.

Of course the prices haven’t hurt in helping me reach peace with the Boxster. But also a) only the very fastest 911s are faster than my family car, and I’ve come to understand that fast mostly doesn’t matter that much beyond a certain point, and b) lemmings experience with the Turbo S and the 987 convince me that if I can only have one, I’d rather have the 987.
To be honest 90% of the TTS appeal is the speed that is not legal. In normal driving it’s kind of a pig. And feels ordinary and quiet. But I spend so much time on the highway that overtaking speed is my #1 ask.

In 90% of driving a manual 987 is dynamically superior and it’s really just a more engaging car.
__________________


lemming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2021, 05:03 PM   #1667
lemming
Western Anomaly
 
lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca
Posts: 16,611
Also:

This is a great looking car.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/5...rctid=91808067
__________________


lemming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2021, 05:18 PM   #1668
JST
195
 
JST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 24,611
Yeah if I had to do a lot of highway driving I’d want a hard top and more power. 911 is the better GT for sure.
JST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2021, 04:21 PM   #1669
lemming
Western Anomaly
 
lemming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca
Posts: 16,611
Sold for kind of big money.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-4s-4/
__________________


lemming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2021, 06:24 PM   #1670
equ
Alphanumeric
 
equ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Carmudgeonly Ride: 981S, 340i
Posts: 9,584
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCA View Post
I have recently located a manual 997.2 C2S. PPI and DME over-rev report pending mid month. Fingers crossed…
A manual, coupe 997.2 in good condition and decent build (color & options) would be fantastic. The .S is icing on the cake... I'd take one for a fair price. Best of luck!
equ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Washed the Saab today... (not dial-up friendly) TD Car Talk 21 03-22-2004 01:47 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Forums © 2003-2008, 'Mudgeon Enterprises - Site hosting by AYN & Associates, LLC