Want a new car, get a 4 cylinder or you could always get ... a 4 cylinder

Alan · 04-01-2016, 09:16 AM

Biggest news from the auto show is like the title says .... You could get a 4 cylinder or a 4 cylinder ...

Times are changing, it is used to be the high end model was the 8 cylinder engine but that is being replaced by the 6 cylinder engine if you're lucky and they even offer one .... basically premium prices are now going to the 6's and the glimpse of the future from what I am seeing is that the 4 cylinder will be the engine that will be in the popular model.

The most disappointing news from the auto show was the E class base model will now be the E300 4 cylinder turbo with 241 hp ... The E base model always came with a 6 cylinder with the outgoing model having 302hp

The new C class coupe is coming with the same 4 cylinder engine

The new Audi A4 is only a 4 cylinder ... I know it's been like this for a while but come on I was hoping for a 340i fighter to come to the rescue ... Yes I know the S4 will be but that is the rare premium model which is vey limited.

Sheesh .. Buick came out with a pretty cool little convertible and it comes with a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine ... I think my snowblower has more horsepower.

How do we go from such extremes where cars went from 300+ hp to all of a sudden 200+

This is just a glimpse of the future ... The funny thing is 3 of my 4 cars are 8 cylinders ... You know this will be changing ... By next year I'd be surprised if I have even one 8 cylinder.

bren · 04-01-2016, 09:19 AM

It's all Tesla's fault....well, them and whatever marketing genius convinced people that turbos are the answer to everything.

JST · 04-01-2016, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bren

It's all Tesla's fault.

What's a "cylinder?"

bren · 04-01-2016, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JST

What's a "cylinder?"

The thing responsible for the glorious noises you are missing out on.

Alan · 04-01-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bren

The thing responsible for the glorious noises you are missing out on.

Lmao ... Exactly

Sharp11 · 04-01-2016, 10:41 AM

Turbo fours have become the "answer" for increasing fuel mileage and lowering emissions.

I don't mind - the new twin-turbo four, aside from a gruff idle, powered the 328i loaner I drove last week, with a smooth and solid delivery - coupled to the new 8 speed auto, it's actually quite nice to drive. Contrast its power (240hp plus???) with my first e46 straight six, which only delivered 170 HP (even though lighter at around 3200 lbs), and there's little to complain about.

For most drivers of these cars today, this standard combination seems befitting - decent mileage, power, smoothness - the new F30's are AWD Accord alternatives in many cases, so why not.

JST · 04-01-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bren

glorious noises

You clearly haven't driven a BMW four cylinder recently.

bren · 04-01-2016, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JST

You clearly haven't driven a BMW four cylinder recently.

I haven't driven a four cylinder since 1994.

Jeff_DML · 04-01-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharp11

Turbo fours have become the "answer" for increasing fuel mileage and lowering emissions.

I don't mind - the new twin-turbo four, aside from a gruff idle, powered the 328i loaner I drove last week, with a smooth and solid delivery - coupled to the new 8 speed auto, it's actually quite nice to drive. Contrast its power (240hp plus???) with my first e46 straight six, which only delivered 170 HP (even though lighter at around 3200 lbs), and there's little to complain about.

For most drivers of these cars today, this standard combination seems befitting - decent mileage, power, smoothness - the new F30's are AWD Accord alternatives in many cases, so why not.

single turbo btw, bmw uses the same confusing twin power for a dual scroll turbo

JST · 04-01-2016, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharp11

Turbo fours have become the "answer" for increasing fuel mileage and lowering emissions.

I don't mind - the new twin-turbo four, aside from a gruff idle, powered the 328i loaner I drove last week, with a smooth and solid delivery - coupled to the new 8 speed auto, it's actually quite nice to drive. Contrast its power (240hp plus???) with my first e46 straight six, which only delivered 170 HP (even though lighter at around 3200 lbs), and there's little to complain about.

For most drivers of these cars today, this standard combination seems befitting - decent mileage, power, smoothness - the new F30's are AWD Accord alternatives in many cases, so why not.

I really hate the new BMW fours, almost as much as I hate the 8 speed auto.

04-01-2016, 09:16 AM	#1
Alan Carmudgeon Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,678	Want a new car, get a 4 cylinder or you could always get ... a 4 cylinder Biggest news from the auto show is like the title says .... You could get a 4 cylinder or a 4 cylinder ... Times are changing, it is used to be the high end model was the 8 cylinder engine but that is being replaced by the 6 cylinder engine if you're lucky and they even offer one .... basically premium prices are now going to the 6's and the glimpse of the future from what I am seeing is that the 4 cylinder will be the engine that will be in the popular model. The most disappointing news from the auto show was the E class base model will now be the E300 4 cylinder turbo with 241 hp ... The E base model always came with a 6 cylinder with the outgoing model having 302hp The new C class coupe is coming with the same 4 cylinder engine The new Audi A4 is only a 4 cylinder ... I know it's been like this for a while but come on I was hoping for a 340i fighter to come to the rescue ... Yes I know the S4 will be but that is the rare premium model which is vey limited. Sheesh .. Buick came out with a pretty cool little convertible and it comes with a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine ... I think my snowblower has more horsepower. How do we go from such extremes where cars went from 300+ hp to all of a sudden 200+ This is just a glimpse of the future ... The funny thing is 3 of my 4 cars are 8 cylinders ... You know this will be changing ... By next year I'd be surprised if I have even one 8 cylinder.

04-01-2016, 09:19 AM	#2
bren lawn boy Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: e46m3, f25x3,C5 Z06, C4 Vette, 06 CTD Ram, and a trailer Location: Maryland Posts: 14,029	It's all Tesla's fault....well, them and whatever marketing genius convinced people that turbos are the answer to everything.

04-01-2016, 10:41 AM	#6
Sharp11 Vicarious Twitterer Join Date: May 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: 06 330 cic ZHP Location: CT Posts: 7,566	Turbo fours have become the "answer" for increasing fuel mileage and lowering emissions. I don't mind - the new twin-turbo four, aside from a gruff idle, powered the 328i loaner I drove last week, with a smooth and solid delivery - coupled to the new 8 speed auto, it's actually quite nice to drive. Contrast its power (240hp plus???) with my first e46 straight six, which only delivered 170 HP (even though lighter at around 3200 lbs), and there's little to complain about. For most drivers of these cars today, this standard combination seems befitting - decent mileage, power, smoothness - the new F30's are AWD Accord alternatives in many cases, so why not.