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Old 06-05-2023, 01:38 PM   #21
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I don't think the Kia Stinger was ever offered with a manual. Anyway, JST didn't say he was looking for a manual.

Not much out there new with manuals these days, especially larger practical sedans or wagons. https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...smission-cars/

Hyundai Elantra N might fit the bill, though some of the styling embellishments I could do without.

I like the Jetta and it would fit JST's use I think. Very nice car for the money. Kind of amazed to see a manual one in dealer stock here. Too bad it's a Sport rather than the GTI version. https://www.momentumvolkswagen.com/n...f5af3252d1.htm
He already has a Jetta...And it probably doesn't offer much more space than the M3, and possibly even less?
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Old 06-05-2023, 02:16 PM   #22
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He already has a Jetta...And it probably doesn't offer much more space than the M3, and possibly even less?
Totally forgot about the kid's car.

Just spitballing anyway...
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Old 06-05-2023, 02:42 PM   #23
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Does that hatchback design of the i4 or 440GC like WDC has help with the luggage issue?
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Old 06-05-2023, 02:45 PM   #24
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Surprisingly, I think the Jetta has more room than the BMW (partly because the spare lives under the floor). Iíve thought about using that as a trip car; itís not impossible. And maybe I could get a roof box for it.

The EV6 prices out nearly the same as the Mustang and its range is a whole lot worse.
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Old 06-05-2023, 02:45 PM   #25
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Guessing Taycans are just too expensive for what you get?
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Once you jam an aftermarket spare in the GC, there's very little cargo room left and it would need to be soft duffel-type bags...Definitely a plus for the Audis...
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Taycans yes are expensive and pretty small inside (except for the wagon, which is even more expensive).
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Old 06-05-2023, 03:35 PM   #28
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The EV6 prices out nearly the same as the Mustang and its range is a whole lot worse.
OK, what am I missing? I did a quick search on range for the two cars

Looks like the EPA-estimated range for the Mach E is 247 miles for the Premium RWD model with the standard battery, and 310 miles with the Extended-range battery.

For the EV6, it's 232 miles for the Standard Range RWD model and 310 miles for the long-range RWD model. That does not seem to be "a whole lot worse."
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Old 06-05-2023, 03:55 PM   #29
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How about the new i5 if you can wait a few months. Not cheap, for sure but it seems nice and roomy and the looks are not terribly objectionable.

https://www.bmwusa.com/future-vehicles/i5.html
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How about the new i5 if you can wait a few months. Not cheap, for sure but it seems nice and roomy and the looks are not terribly objectionable.

https://www.bmwusa.com/future-vehicles/i5.html
There are also rumors of some sort of M5 wagon hybrid thingy for 2023. But, the price will be stratospheric.

What about the electric Macan? That's coming up quickly, no? Probably not much more room than my GC, though...

It all makes the A4 wagon seem like the strongest option. How hard would it be to lower it?

Then there's the upcoming 5 sedan. That is bound to be pretty nice and far roomier/comfortable than any 3 series platform vehicle. They may keep the PHEV as well...
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