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Old 04-04-2023, 06:43 PM   #11
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You're considering some really nice cars .. very tough choice ... would you consider an Audi A5 ? It is a fun comfortable car to drive with a nice engine and very good looks.
Never been an Audi guy, but I am not against trying one. My sense from years of reading reviews is that I would not be happy with something from Audi if it doesn't start with an S.
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Old 04-04-2023, 06:56 PM   #12
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Never been an Audi guy, but I am not against trying one. My sense from years of reading reviews is that I would not be happy with something from Audi if it doesn't start with an S.
Audi S5 sportback is very nice as well.

You could probably pickup a CPO RWD Taycan in your price range in a couple years as well (I think the cheapest ones are still around 80, but that should change in 1-2 years).

Both are, of course, going to be tighter in the back vs an e53.
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Old 04-04-2023, 06:58 PM   #13
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Yeah. I need to do some good old fashioned car shopping and comparisons.
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:18 PM   #14
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E53 is in different class than the others - do you want/need the extra space and ok trading off some of the sportiness?
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:27 PM   #15
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Arteon? They wonít make them much longer but they should be available cheap.
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:31 PM   #16
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Yea, if the goal is a useable back seat then I would not be looking at a sloped roof 4 door coupe style. Check out a used 540 along with the e53.
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:50 PM   #17
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I don't want dirt cheap. I'm looking for an upgrade to the GTI.

I don't need new. The MB's above would be up to 6 years old in a couple of years when I'd be looking for a car. But I do want something nice if I'm going to spend time on it every day.

And yes, the i4 seems like a good fit, which is why it was always penciled in as the choice. But it would be around $80k new, and that's a lot.
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There is a 330e plug in hybrid. Don't know If it does anything better than an i4 other than put gas in for long drives
The 330e has my vote.

But, as I recall, your wife always wanted an MB in the stable, and Iím thinking it might be time for her to get something she really likes
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E53 is in different class than the others - do you want/need the extra space and ok trading off some of the sportiness?
I don't really know the answer to that. I'd need to know how much of one I gain for how much I am losing of the other.
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Why not a pre-owned panamera? Seems better than an ugly modern BMW
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Why not a pre-owned panamera? Seems better than an ugly modern BMW
They seem big and pricey.

I was just looking up the 540, and realized that there was an M550, and then I remembered that the president of my last company bought one of those and parked next to the F80 and it was massive. I canít imagine wanting that.

Like I said, Iíll have to check them out in person.
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