I bought a pony car missing half the bangers

*clyde* · 02-27-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by equ

About 50% of the times when a dealer does my paperwork, something goes wrong. My 2006 cayman came with boxster registration e.g. Nothing went wrong on the Jeep, even my specialty plate request worked. But I've noticed that even in-state processing gets real close to the 3 or 4-week expiration of the temp plates. NJ?

Titling and registration info are usually automatically pulled based on VIN. Did Porsche use the same model code for the Boxster and Cayman in the VIN?

In MD, you can do it yourself with the MVA (MD's DMV) if you have all the right paperwork. The F&I guy at the dealer refused to give me the manufacturer's certificate of origin, which is one of the required documents. He told me he felt there was enough risk to his dealership and their franchise in giving me that document he would let me walk and give me a check for the gas I used to get there and what it would take to get home.

It's kind of believable, but I have no idea if that's true or not, but I put my faith in the system because it didn't feel like I had much other choice. One of the things that made me question was that he said the car had to first be issued an OH title which would then be transferred to MD and that the third party would take care of all that.

Until it's all done, I'm leery. (con't)

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Originally Posted by Nick M3

FYI, you aren't in the clear until you've renewed the plates. As I discovered with my first E46 M3, where I found out that I had a valid title (yay!), but had been driving around with an invalid tag and registration for two years. They ended up issuing new tags.

One of my fears revolves around my tags being properly transferred. I'm also a little concerned about an insurance hassle with MVA despite maintaining continuous coverage (from old car to new car) since I haven't surrendered my tags. Until I have title and correct registration in hand, I'm leery.

How does one wind up with an invalid tag and registration?

*clyde* · 02-27-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

I'm also a little concerned about an insurance hassle with MVA despite maintaining continuous coverage (from old car to new car) since I haven't surrendered my tags

Side note, the Camaro is about 1/3 less expensive to insure than the FoST. Liability is a couple dollars more per six months (literally either $2 or $3), but collision and comprehensive are significantly less expensive.

Nick M3 · 02-27-2018, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

Titling and registration info are usually automatically pulled based on VIN. Did Porsche use the same model code for the Boxster and Cayman in the VIN?

In MD, you can do it yourself with the MVA (MD's DMV) if you have all the right paperwork. The F&I guy at the dealer refused to give me the manufacturer's certificate of origin, which is one of the required documents. He told me he felt there was enough risk to his dealership and their franchise in giving me that document he would let me walk and give me a check for the gas I used to get there and what it would take to get home.

It's kind of believable, but I have no idea if that's true or not, but I put my faith in the system because it didn't feel like I had much other choice. One of the things that made me question was that he said the car had to first be issued an OH title which would then be transferred to MD and that the third party would take care of all that.

Until it's all done, I'm leery. (con't)

One of my fears revolves around my tags being properly transferred. I'm also a little concerned about an insurance hassle with MVA despite maintaining continuous coverage (from old car to new car) since I haven't surrendered my tags. Until I have title and correct registration in hand, I'm leery.

How does one wind up with an invalid tag and registration?

Fuck if I know how. All I know is that I never got a renewal notice, and had a rather awkward conversation with a cop who pulled me over for no front plate. And the tags were not recorded in the system when I went to the MVA to try to sort it out.

*clyde* · 04-18-2018, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by equ

About 50% of the times when a dealer does my paperwork, something goes wrong. My 2006 cayman came with boxster registration e.g. Nothing went wrong on the Jeep, even my specialty plate request worked. But I've noticed that even in-state processing gets real close to the 3 or 4-week expiration of the temp plates. NJ?

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Originally Posted by clyde

In MD, you can do it yourself with the MVA (MD's DMV) if you have all the right paperwork. The F&I guy at the dealer refused to give me the manufacturer's certificate of origin, which is one of the required documents. He told me he felt there was enough risk to his dealership and their franchise in giving me that document he would let me walk and give me a check for the gas I used to get there and what it would take to get home.

It's kind of believable, but I have no idea if that's true or not, but I put my faith in the system because it didn't feel like I had much other choice. One of the things that made me question was that he said the car had to first be issued an OH title which would then be transferred to MD and that the third party would take care of all that.

Until it's all done, I'm leery.

And when I bought the car 60 days ago, he also said there's a requirement it all be done with the owner receiving the right paperwork within 45 days, but in instances like this, it sometimes takes an additional couple days. Like I just said, it's been 60 days. I still don't have title, registration, etc.

Waiting for a response after pinging them this morning.

*clyde* · 04-27-2018, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde

And when I bought the car 60 days ago, he also said there's a requirement it all be done with the owner receiving the right paperwork within 45 days, but in instances like this, it sometimes takes an additional couple days. Like I just said, it's been 60 days. I still don't have title, registration, etc.

Waiting for a response after pinging them this morning.

So, it's 69 days now?

No response to the email I sent referenced above. No response to the voicemail I left two days later.

60 minute response to the followup email I sent yesterday that also cc'd the dealership's general manager.

Short version is it looks like they fucked it up in completely avoidable ways. Ways that I expressed concerns about at the time and they blew off.

I'm pretty ticked.

To be continued...

*clyde* · 05-01-2018, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde

So, it's 69 days now?

No response to the email I sent referenced above. No response to the voicemail I left two days later.

60 minute response to the followup email I sent yesterday that also cc'd the dealership's general manager.

Short version is it looks like they fucked it up in completely avoidable ways. Ways that I expressed concerns about at the time and they blew off.

I'm pretty ticked.

To be continued...

So, no response to what I sent on Friday. As far as I can tell from what I think they've done, I'm going to have to get a MD used car inspection, then some kind of magic will happen somewhere somehow and I'll get a title and registration someday.

I just sent an email to the dealership GM leaving off the other staff and laid out where we are and asking him for a proposed resolution.

*clyde* · 05-01-2018, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

So, no response to what I sent on Friday. As far as I can tell from what I think they've done, I'm going to have to get a MD used car inspection, then some kind of magic will happen somewhere somehow and I'll get a title and registration someday.

I just sent an email to the dealership GM leaving off the other staff and laid out where we are and asking him for a proposed resolution.

GM responded with profuse apologies within 20 minutes. Asked for a little more time to see what he can do. I thanked him and said I looked forward to hearing from him soon.

*clyde* · 05-02-2018, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde

GM responded with profuse apologies within 20 minutes. Asked for a little more time to see what he can do. I thanked him and said I looked forward to hearing from him soon.

Getting the GM involved seems to have made things move. It's going to take a little while longer yet since I'll need to get the car inspected, send stuff, etc, but they'll be sending me a check refunding the doc fees for the service they didn't provide and reimburse my expenses. Still negotiating about how they're going to compensate me for my time.

ff · 05-02-2018, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde

Getting the GM involved seems to have made things move.

I'll bet that's the only person in the dealership hierarchical chain that truly cares about the dealership's reputation. Everyone below them already forgot your name, and doesn't give a rat's ass about your post-delivery problems (i.e. "Pfffft. How would I benefit from helping you? I already took your money!").

wdc330i · 05-02-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde

Getting the GM involved seems to have made things move. It's going to take a little while longer yet since I'll need to get the car inspected, send stuff, etc, but they'll be sending me a check refunding the doc fees for the service they didn't provide and reimburse my expenses. Still negotiating about how they're going to compensate me for my time.

Sounds hopeful!