Test drove a few Audis this weekend - Page 3

GimpyMcFarlan · 08-13-2023, 03:33 PM

Absolutely love the blue but the mismatched wheel wells would always be the first thing me eye would see. 😕

JST · 08-13-2023, 04:29 PM

Yeah I’d love a hybrid wagon, either A6 or 550e.

robg · 08-13-2023, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wdc330i

I would be very much on board for a plug-in hybrid 5 wagon—if they don’t hobble the handling.

Pretty sure you can get a plug-in hybrid version of both the a6 and 5 series wagon in Europe. Agree it would be nice if they brought those over here

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robg · 08-13-2023, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GimpyMcFarlan

Absolutely love the blue but the mismatched wheel wells would always be the first thing me eye would see. 😕

Yep- that’s my issue with it

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FC · 08-14-2023, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by equ

Blue > Gray IMHO, who cares about matching plastic cladding, that's part of the allroad thing for 20 years now

wdc330i · 08-14-2023, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by robg

Pretty sure you can get a plug-in hybrid version of both the a6 and 5 series wagon in Europe. Agree it would be nice if they brought those over here

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Yep. But, we also had a plug-in hybrid X5 here with dynamic handling package, and they discontinued that option for some stupid reason.

robg · 08-14-2023, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wdc330i

Yep. But, we also had a plug-in hybrid X5 here with dynamic handling package, and they discontinued that option for some stupid reason.

Didn't realize this, but apparently Audi briefly offered a plugin version of the A7 here (so basically the same car): https://www.edmunds.com/audi/a7/2022/plug-in-hybrid/

Unfortunately, they used a 4 cylinder engine with the hybrid system. I think that's what killed many of these plugins here in the US atleast in the luxury segment; when you're spending over 60k you really dont want to hear or feel a 4 cylinder. Plus, its even more jarring in a hybrid since the EV mode would be silent and smooth. BMW finally got this when they introdcued the 45e (and now 50e) version of their hybrid system and it seems to doing quite well. I suspect that Audi doesn't have a PHEV that works with their 6 cylinder engines (Porsche does but they use a small battery that yields under 20 miles of range). I think VW group is more focused on full BEVs right now.

JST · 08-14-2023, 01:39 PM

Yeah the current gen 5er wagon also uses the 30e powertrain and only has a 12 kWh battery. Really nothing worth paying extra for.

https://configure.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/co...S09QX/SE000034

robg · 08-14-2023, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JST

Yeah the current gen 5er wagon also uses the 30e powertrain and only has a 12 kWh battery. Really nothing worth paying extra for.

https://configure.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/co...S09QX/SE000034

Wow -didn't realize the 30e used such a small battery.

JST · 08-14-2023, 04:11 PM

The 30e spec is for the current gen, which is being replaced next year. It sounds like the new 5 will have two PHEVs, at least in Europe; a 550e and a 530e. They will share the same 19.4 kWh battery (slightly smaller than the X5? Or maybe that’s usable v gross capacity?) and 194 hp electric motor (same as the X5). The difference is the engine, with the 30 using the 2 liter four and the 50 using the 3 liter six.

Both look set to be available in Europe in the spring of ‘24. Not sure which will come to the US.

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08-13-2023, 04:29 PM	#22
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,611	Yeah I’d love a hybrid wagon, either A6 or 550e.

08-14-2023, 01:39 PM	#28
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,611	Yeah the current gen 5er wagon also uses the 30e powertrain and only has a 12 kWh battery. Really nothing worth paying extra for. https://configure.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/co...S09QX/SE000034

08-14-2023, 04:11 PM	#30
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,611	The 30e spec is for the current gen, which is being replaced next year. It sounds like the new 5 will have two PHEVs, at least in Europe; a 550e and a 530e. They will share the same 19.4 kWh battery (slightly smaller than the X5? Or maybe that’s usable v gross capacity?) and 194 hp electric motor (same as the X5). The difference is the engine, with the 30 using the 2 liter four and the 50 using the 3 liter six. Both look set to be available in Europe in the spring of ‘24. Not sure which will come to the US.