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I meant the tranny and clutch, not the car...
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i have to disagree there. i've driven the ZHP manual and i wouldn't call it superior to the short shift throw plus firmness of the M coupe. could be the same mechanism with more "fluidity" because it's an e46, but the M coupe will stand to me as the finest gearbox in recent memory. hated the long throws of the e36m3 and the e46m3 throws are quite long, also. the throws of the standard e46s are okay but precise. IMO, BMWs and Porsche do not build transmissions with great feel --they are precise (if notchy) units but they still pale in comparison to the rx8, for example, and the miata or s2000. each one of the aforementioned cars should be the paradigm to emulate but once again, the 3 series is an entry level luxury car so a lot of that "feel" is sacrificed for the sake of a well oiled mechanism with a really wobbly & vague clutch take-up.
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I keep thinking the car really needs a lighter flywheel. I keep having to deliberately wait for the revs to drop in all lower gears, and for a 1-2 shift, it's an awfully long wait to get the revs low enough to have a smooth shift. After two years, I still find myself depressing the clutch far deeper than I ought to when coming to a quick stop and shifting out of first. |
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mbr: have you driven an M roadter or M coupe? it's notchier but more direct feeling. likely the same motion as the ZHP package.
my favorite shifter is still the miata. s2000 is a close second. M coupe third. the one thing that is not readily fixable is the clutch on the E46s and likely the e90s. moving to the dual mass flywheel really sucks. if i kept a 3 series long enough to make it worthwhile (as in never again), i'd swap out the lousy dual mass flywheel for a lightweight single mass unit as that improves the feel noticeably --i did this both on the e36m3 and the M coupe and it made a world of difference in terms of clutch engagement as well as feel. i fully expect the e90 to have a heavy and spongy dual mass flywheel with a spongy clutch feel. the interior of the car looks okay in a lexus sort of way. nicer wood. less driver-oriented (seems to have gone out the door after the e36). my question at the end of the day is: is the e90 has gotten larger and heavier and only marginally faster with even more derivative styling, what's to keep us from driving the next gen IS350 or the g35? or the c350 6speed?
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I think the best BMW tranny is actually the 318ti.
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