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Old 04-06-2019, 10:42 PM   #61
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The thing here is that I'm finding it really, really hard to come up with reasons why we shouldn't. And it only leads me to another reason why it's a good idea.

The thing that really bugs me is that 2019 brings a new generation of the RAV4 and it looks like it's seriously improved and the price spread between new and what we drove today doesn't make it unthinkable...but it makes it more money than I wanted to spend. Sigh.



It's all about the in town miles, baby.
Yes, but the new RAV4 is uglier than a stump, so going with the old generation is actually smart.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:55 AM   #62
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I hadn’t been paying attention to the RAV4 updates. Just looked at some pics of the ‘19s. I see Toyota put on the nasty ugly front end similar to the 4Runner. The rest doesn’t look all that bad, but the front end is nasty...
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:59 AM   #63
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Did you check out the Hyundai kona? I know nothing about it, but I noticed yesterday they are everywhere, so maybe they have redeeming qualities.

If gas mileage is a thing... How about a diesel wagon?
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He said upthread that diesel is a no go and passed on two of my excellent diesel suggestions, sadly.
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Old 04-07-2019, 09:10 AM   #65
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It's all about the in town miles, baby.

Oh, I know. I just think back to when my Mother passed away and I had to drive her Prius from the Washington Olympic peninsula to my house in NJ. I barely got over 30 miles per gallon. Sure, I was loaded with all my Mothers papers, and records; and I drove as fast as I thought I could get away with. (even though this trip was back in 2007, I still will never own a prius)

The car was then given to my brother and his wife. They only drove it around town to 45-50 MPG
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Old 04-07-2019, 10:09 AM   #66
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Did you check out the Hyundai kona? I know nothing about it, but I noticed yesterday they are everywhere, so maybe they have redeeming qualities.
Only 19 cubic feet behind the seats.

The Kona is in the Honda HR-V, Mazda CX-3 (and Golf Sportwagen :P) size class, which is one class too small.

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If gas mileage is a thing... How about a diesel wagon?
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As JST said, sadly, diesel is a stop-before-we-get-going.

In light of day, my wife's decided the RAV4 hybrid is the car for her and I think we just decided to go with new. Styling issues (and their associated gnawing into "bland, anonymous, forgettable, unassuming," qualities and increased self-consciousness) aside, the other main differences are near 40% increase in range (20% better MPG and 18% larger tank), LED headlights with auto high beams, dynamic cruise and Toyota's safety suite (which is all the stuff you think it is and something most of us would find infuriating, but maybe helpful for my wife?)

The adventure continues.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:09 PM   #67
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Only 19 cubic feet behind the seats.

The Kona is in the Honda HR-V, Mazda CX-3 (and Golf Sportwagen :P) size class, which is one class too small.



As JST said, sadly, diesel is a stop-before-we-get-going.

In light of day, my wife's decided the RAV4 hybrid is the car for her and I think we just decided to go with new. Styling issues (and their associated gnawing into "bland, anonymous, forgettable, unassuming," qualities and increased self-consciousness) aside, the other main differences are near 40% increase in range (20% better MPG and 18% larger tank), LED headlights with auto high beams, dynamic cruise and Toyota's safety suite (which is all the stuff you think it is and something most of us would find infuriating, but maybe helpful for my wife?)

The adventure continues.
Seems like a well thought through plan. Hope it last forever.
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Seems like a well thought through plan. Hope it last forever.
Thanks! I sure hope so, too!

You see, I did a thing, so...

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Looks good ... any better pictures ??
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Looks good ... any better pictures ??
Thanks and not yet.
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