What did this guy do wrong?

JST · 09-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Skip to the 1:45 mark. Just lift as he came over the rise?

bren · 09-13-2011, 02:36 PM

Slow hands.

It does look like he lifts with that first correction too. His speed drops pretty rapidly right there.

Does he let go of the steering wheel? Looks like he thought he was driving a boat or an arcade game.

JST · 09-13-2011, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bren

Slow hands.

It does look like he lifts with that first correction too. His speed drops pretty rapidly right there.

Does he let go of the steering wheel? Looks like he thought he was driving a boat or an arcade game.

Holy crap, he does. What the hell was he doing with his left hand? I didn't even look at that section of the screen the first time I saw it.

bren · 09-13-2011, 02:45 PM

He literally just "threw" some opposite lock at the problem and hoped for the best.

Nick M3 · 09-13-2011, 03:34 PM

Wheel turned over a crest isn't necessarily good, either. G meter suggests he was decelerating BEFORE the crest, which was probably the real problem.

Theo · 09-13-2011, 10:17 PM

Less extream reaction then that other guy who plowed his R8 into the wall that was posted here. This guy was rather calm actually.

JST · 09-14-2011, 06:13 AM

I'm pretty sure it's not his car--I think that's one from the Porsche school.

Sharp11 · 09-14-2011, 10:54 AM

Looks to me like the car got light over the crest, perhaps he lifted, or as Nick says, had the wheels pointed the wrong way ... who knows, it is a Porsche with a huge engine hanging out over the back wheels.

With cars like this, crap happens so fast it can be over with before you know it - I stuffed a Dodge Viper into the dirt at Lime Rock ten years ago, I still don't know exactly what happened

John V · 09-14-2011, 11:03 AM

Hard to tell with the camera angle, but they guy looked kind of inattentive in general.

But yeah, he reacted way too slowly to the initial slide and even more slowly to the tank slapper that resulted. He would do well to get out to an autocross and learn some basic skills.

Pinecone · 09-14-2011, 04:25 PM

Almost a matter of what didn't he do wrong.

Wheel turned and decel over the crest.

Slow initial correction. WAY slwo second correction. Not so sure he wasn't almost sideways with the wrong lock in.

And it seems he REALLY lifted when it started to come around. Not a good idea in any car, really BAD idea in rear engine car.

09-13-2011, 02:29 PM	#1
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,635	What did this guy do wrong? Skip to the 1:45 mark. Just lift as he came over the rise?

09-13-2011, 03:34 PM	#5
Nick M3 Relic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 12,476	Wheel turned over a crest isn't necessarily good, either. G meter suggests he was decelerating BEFORE the crest, which was probably the real problem. __________________ 2011 M3 2006 Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison 2004 X5 3.0i 6MT 1995 M3 S50B32 1990 325is 1989 M3 S54B32 Hers: 1989 325iX 1996 911 Turbo

09-13-2011, 10:17 PM	#6
Theo Crazy Old Man Join Date: Dec 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: M2C Stick Posts: 6,021	Less extream reaction then that other guy who plowed his R8 into the wall that was posted here. This guy was rather calm actually. __________________ Searching

09-14-2011, 04:25 PM	#10
Pinecone Carmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,717	Almost a matter of what didn't he do wrong. Wheel turned and decel over the crest. Slow initial correction. WAY slwo second correction. Not so sure he wasn't almost sideways with the wrong lock in. And it seems he REALLY lifted when it started to come around. Not a good idea in any car, really BAD idea in rear engine car. __________________ Terry Carraway 2002 Topaz E46 M3 2000 Dakar M Roadster 1995 Alpine E36 M3 LTW 1990 Red/White Spec Racer

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