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Old 07-16-2018, 02:59 PM   #21
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People now put in the E46 ZHP rack. Personally, I like the 3.0 rack.
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:20 PM   #22
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1M (or any 1-series, really): Yuck. No. Never.

you're really missing out on a cheap (in non- M guise) and fun little car, but to each their own.
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:38 PM   #23
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People now put in the E46 ZHP rack. Personally, I like the 3.0 rack.
Given that there is zero difference between a regular E46 330 rack and a ZHP rack, that seems really silly.

Regarding the 1-series, it doesn't buy me anything. I get all of the modern BMW downsides with none of the old BMW upsides - namely the rawness and the styling.
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Old 07-16-2018, 04:18 PM   #24
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Given that there is zero difference between a regular E46 330 rack and a ZHP rack, that seems really silly.
I've given up on this and solved it by doing a search-and-replace in my head - every time I read "ZHP" I replace it with "E46" or "330i", as appropriate.
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Old 07-16-2018, 04:22 PM   #25
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Given that there is zero difference between a regular E46 330 rack and a ZHP rack, that seems really silly.

Regarding the 1-series, it doesn't buy me anything. I get all of the modern BMW downsides with none of the old BMW upsides - namely the rawness and the styling.
"The rack that was used in the E46 ZHP that was also used in the late model E46 330s, but which is different from a whole host of other racks that were used in E46es, including earlier E46 330s."
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Old 07-16-2018, 04:45 PM   #26
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"The rack that was used in the E46 ZHP that was also used in the late model E46 330s, but which is different from a whole host of other racks that were used in E46es, including earlier E46 330s."
See? Was that really so hard?

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See? Was that really so hard?

Sorry, that that should have read: "...including multiple different racks used in earlier E46 330s."
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:35 PM   #28
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All I know is the three E46 330i/Cis I owned all had the same rack.
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:12 PM   #29
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All I know is the three E46 330i/Cis I owned all had the same rack.
So, apparently that not even correct. There were *three* late model E46 330 steering racks. Only one rack went in the ZHP (the 712 rack). The ZHP rack was put into a lot of other 330s as well. One of the racks isn't even a ZF part.

And then, of course, there is the Camry rack that BMW stuck in the '01s, and the retrofit rack that replaced many of those. So at least five different E46 330 racks.
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:45 PM   #30
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So, apparently that not even correct. There were *three* late model E46 330 steering racks. Only one rack went in the ZHP (the 712 rack). The ZHP rack was put into a lot of other 330s as well. One of the racks isn't even a ZF part.

And then, of course, there is the Camry rack that BMW stuck in the '01s, and the retrofit rack that replaced many of those. So at least five different E46 330 racks.
I liked the Camry rack on the 2001 330i. I know I'm the only one.
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