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Doesn't this conversation head towards the other big question about Tesla and if they ever meant to be a manufacturer long term? Or just prove a technology and move to sell/license it?
The 3 has some major issues. The S has been solid. I don't know where the X falls in that range, but it's there. The places where they're failing are 1) related to product development of products that typically take several years to develop while standing on the shoulders of many, many years of institutional know-how and corporate infrastructure at the majors which Tesla simply does not have and 2) scale. Their basic new trick is batteries, range, and charging at a workable price point. They've proved they figured that out. The house battery thing, dunno where that goes, but I've never been convinced that Tesla was really about making their own cars long term.
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I can certainly believe that. And yes, I agree that Tesla has been massively influential and in large part the reason for the EV revolution momentum.
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Right - I had always thought their long term strstegy was to force other carmakers to come out with EVs and then switch to becoming a supplier of battery packs , charging infrastructure, etc. Since the model S and X largely achieved the goal of getting consumers interested in EVs I’m a bit surprised that they bothered with attempting a mass market car (with all the associated headaches). Ego maybe?
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Tesla has been very clear for years that their ultimate goal was to build a mass market car. I’d have been really surprised if they backed off before they did that.
As for forcing a shift—the S and X have definitely proved that electric cars can be mainstream. They’ve also pushed a lot of carmakers toward thinking about EVs. But how many long range EVs are there now, that aren’t Teslas? Pretty much one—the Bolt. There are a lot of designs in the pipeline, but it’ll be years before they’re actually on the road. I don’t think Tesla’s work on forcing a shift is done until some significant percentage of new cars are electric. That day is at least 10 years off. |
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I placed an order for a Model 3 this evening. Dual Motor, Red, black interior, 19”wheels.
Delivery window is October to December... Full tax credit avail throUgh Dec deliveries, so I should still get it. The Model S turned 91.5k miles this week, and I had planned to sell it before 100k all along. I held off on the order for a bit for non-car reasons, but decided to go ahead this weekend. A guy who works for me took delivery of his Model 3 last week, and he gave me a ride on Friday. I’d still prefer a tan interior, but I can live with the black for a few years.
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Is this your second or third Tesla?
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Unrelated, I think I mentioned seeing a gray one pretty frequently near my house? Don't think I will see it again. Last week, I saw it getting pulled onto a flatbed after a collision with something else (that was already gone when I got there).
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