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Old 04-03-2016, 10:37 PM   #161
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I happen to think it looks better than I expected and better than most cars in the class (meaning 3-series competitors not EVs). I imagine the interior will change prior to production. But at this moment, I plan to follow through with my order when my number comes up in three years.

I mostly agree. Still not sure about the ghost grill and the rear doesn't flow as well as the model s but overall it commits fewer styling sins than the 3 series and its ilk. I agree that it looks like a Mazda sedan if Mazda happened to make rwd sedans.

Overall I'd probably buy one although I will have to acclimate to the interior if the pro type is at all representative.


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Old 04-03-2016, 10:45 PM   #162
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Elon tweeted over the weekend that this is not the final steering gear. Which is a weird choice of words.
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:55 PM   #163
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Elon tweeted over the weekend that this is not the final steering gear. Which is a weird choice of words.
Slightly different, but still weird -- Here's his tweet:

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@HBL_Cosmin Wait until you see the real steering controls and system for the 3. It feels like a spaceship.
I take it as a response to the plain steering wheels with no control buttons on them. I'm also suspecting there will be a HUD in addition to the center display.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:37 AM   #164
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Slightly different, but still weird -- Here's his tweet:







I take it as a response to the plain steering wheels with no control buttons on them. I'm also suspecting there will be a HUD in addition to the center display.

Or maybe the steering wheel will have a built in screen


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Old 04-04-2016, 09:47 AM   #165
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Pig snout or not, the car seems fine, though as with Matt and a few others here, I doubt my urban environment will be amenable to plugging/charging. If that changes, I could see making one out of two or three cars electric... The model 3 could even be in my future, though much of the infrastructure around here will have to change.

There is one big thing in this hoopla that is bothering me. If there are so many people willing to put deposits down, why are my tax dollars going to support or even create such a mania? Dumb.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:59 AM   #166
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There is one big thing in this hoopla that is bothering me. If there are so many people willing to put deposits down, why are my tax dollars going to support or even create such a mania? Dumb.
Well, technically it won't be around much longer.

I suspect that tax incentive is what is largely drawing the crowd. There are going to be a lot of cancellations once it expires.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:01 AM   #167
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Pig snout or not, the car seems fine, though as with Matt and a few others here, I doubt my urban environment will be amenable to plugging/charging. If that changes, I could see making one out of two or three cars electric... The model 3 could even be in my future, though much of the infrastructure around here will have to change.

There is one big thing in this hoopla that is bothering me. If there are so many people willing to put deposits down, why are my tax dollars going to support or even create such a mania? Dumb.
Electrification of the parking infrastructure in NYC will take a while, but it will happen.

http://nypost.com/2016/03/17/tesla-s...-gas-stations/

As for the tax program--the whole point of the credits was to encourage the adoption of EVs and speed the creation of a market for those cars. Now that's happened. The program has been a huge success. Why does that bother you? Seems like we should be celebrating it.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:26 AM   #168
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I live near but not in Manhattan, and never buy gas there, so no effect to me. I still am not enthused by having to charge up every 3 hrs of highway driving. I generally don't drive during the week, when I drive on the weekends, I typically go further.

If the deal is so good that hundreds of thousands sign up and the stock price has gone to the stratosphere, I see a mania being inflated with federal incentives. I also take issue with the Fed's ZIRP (zero interest rate policy) causing the real estate, stock (less of one) and even old porsche bubbles. That is far less direct than this. Outright funneling to EV stockholders and drivers... The US tax system is broken from beginning to end.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:53 AM   #169
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I generally don't drive during the week, when I drive on the weekends, I typically go further.
Sounds like you are the ideal customer for a gasoline powered vehicle.

My daily drive to work would be perfect for an electric - 35 miles each way. If I had an outlet.
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:33 PM   #170
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It's worth exploring whether your parking situations (garage owners, whatever) either at home or work would be willing to put in charging infrastructure. I found that my office was surprisingly accommodating on that point.



Putting in charging in an exterior space is obviously more difficult, though it is not necessarily impossible.

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