Tesla Model ≡ Thread - Page 80

kognito · 10-12-2018, 04:44 PM

I haven't driven the current version Volt, but wasn't too impressed with the first version.

That said, when I get home from Germany I plan on test driving the new Volt and the Honda Clarity plug in hybrid (hopefully back to back)

Both remove range anxiety

rumatt · 10-12-2018, 02:53 PM

There's no logic, or rational explanation for me ordering the model 3. I didn't even want one, for all the reasons stated above. I only test drove one on a whim.

Something about the test drive made me want it. Having 400+ HP instantly with zero lag might have had something to do with it. I just hope that whatever made me like it so much during test drive continues on through ownership. I'm only partly convinced that it will.

I'd say drive one. Until then, it won't make sense. You might hate it... but you might say, "MUST HAVE. that other shit doesn't matter. Take my CA$H MONEY!!!111!"

ZBB · 10-12-2018, 03:37 PM

I want mine back (or a replacement -- see more below).

Not sure I understand the hate about the touch screen. After driving the S for 5+ years, I really liked it -- and I had no issue with muscle memory issues. Especially since most of the frequently controlled things either never moved off the screen or had a steering wheel button as an option (volume, next track).

I'm currently in a Ford Fusion Hybrid for a rental (ugh…). The large number of buttons and small non-touch screen is much worse. 2 mornings now, I plugged my phone into the USB port to charge while driving, and about 25 minutes into my commute I got some random message saying that there were too many files on my device so the voice response on the car wouldn't work (WTF?). So I pulled out my emergency cigarette plug USB thingy to use going forward.

Regarding insurance and repairs. The first claim check is on its way to me (for ~$12k, all less my deductible, which will get refunded at some point since the other driver was at fault)… Since its repairable, they are at least starting to order parts. I believe there will be much more damage found once work starts. I have a feeling it will take at least 1-2 months to complete repairs.

But I really don't want that car back, so I'm now working on a diminished value claim. I stopped by Tesla this afternoon to see if they could help provide a trade estimate that notes the vehicle has repaired crash damage. My insurance also said they would help provide a value estimate. Once I have those, I can put a claim in to the other insurance company. I'm hoping to make the numbers work to just order a replacement and sell/trade this one...

Also, I received a copy of the police report of the accident -- attached is a snippet showing the diagram of what happened. My car is Unit 3. I still don't know how the Civic (Unit 1) avoided hitting the 2-3 other cars that were in front of me. The gap from where I was hit and the Yukon/horse trailer came to a stop was only a couple car lengths. This accident could have been so much worse...

John V · 10-12-2018, 09:11 PM

The wiper speed control is on the touch screen, right?

Look, I like touch screens. The Model S is fine. But there is a reason we have controls on steering wheel stalks. It's because it makes sense to do that.

It seems like a great car for $45,000. But I can't get one for that, nor do I have $45,000 to spend on a car, so I'll just move along...

ZBB · 10-13-2018, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John V

The wiper speed control is on the touch screen, right?

Look, I like touch screens. The Model S is fine. But there is a reason we have controls on steering wheel stalks. It's because it makes sense to do that.

It seems like a great car for $45,000. But I can't get one for that, nor do I have $45,000 to spend on a car, so I'll just move along...

Yes, the wiper speed control is on the screen. But it has an auto mode that works well -- I only drove the 3 in the rain one day, but the wipers just worked (didn't even turn them on). There's also a button on the end of the stalk to manually get a wipe, or hold in for washer spray and a few wipes… While the S had wiper speed controls on the stalk, I honestly never moved them out of auto mode

The $35k base short range 3 will be avail next year...

JST · 10-13-2018, 10:24 AM

The whole idea behind the Tesla is that lots of systems that previously were manual can now be reliably automated and just run in the background. Lots of cars have gotten to this point—I don’t think I’ve ever touched the headlight control in my VW, and I rarely do anything but turn the Hvac on and off—but Tesla’s idea is if you don’t use these controls anyway, why have all these dedicated buttons for them?

It mostly works. The screen takes some getting used to, but it’s pretty intuitive and well laid out.

JVs other complaint about servicing is legit. Tesla service has been generally pretty good compared to anything else I’ve used, but DIY service is still not for the faint of heart. That said, it’s not like you can’t do it; there’s a whole community out there working on modding the cars and figuring out how to service them. Honestly it might appeal to JV once he’s done designing and building a race car in his barn.

rumatt · 10-14-2018, 12:10 AM

Not everyone's delivery is going smoothly.

https://twitter.com/john_c_joseph/st...34232964718592

*clyde* · 10-14-2018, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rumatt

Not everyone's delivery is going smoothly.

https://twitter.com/john_c_joseph/st...34232964718592

Quote:

Originally Posted by entitled wannabe tesla owner, "john_c"

Tesla is 0 for 4 in fulfilling delivery commitments to me. They tell me my car is in Chicago. Here’s my plan. If the car is not ready tomorrow, I’m taking my story to the media. Thoughts?Who should I reach out to?

JST · 10-14-2018, 11:22 AM

Yeah. I don’t doubt that guy has had issues, but also he sounds like a douche.

rumatt · 10-17-2018, 11:05 AM

So I have a VIN, and in theory I'm scheduled for delivery this coming Monday.

The communication from my IDA has been very poor. I have a feeling things delay, but we'll see.

The web site also lists the $2000 NY State discount in the amount when computing the total amount I'm supposed to bring. I might refuse to take the car if they try to change that last minute. I changed my order to a performance version only after they explicitly told me I would keep that discount.

10-12-2018, 04:44 PM	#1
kognito older fart than ZBB Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: On the road again Posts: 8,911	I haven't driven the current version Volt, but wasn't too impressed with the first version. That said, when I get home from Germany I plan on test driving the new Volt and the Honda Clarity plug in hybrid (hopefully back to back) Both remove range anxiety __________________ 2017 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE 2020 Fusion Titanium

10-12-2018, 03:37 PM	#3
ZBB Relic Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: A very fast golf cart Location: The Valley of the Sun Posts: 12,821	I want mine back (or a replacement -- see more below). Not sure I understand the hate about the touch screen. After driving the S for 5+ years, I really liked it -- and I had no issue with muscle memory issues. Especially since most of the frequently controlled things either never moved off the screen or had a steering wheel button as an option (volume, next track). I'm currently in a Ford Fusion Hybrid for a rental (ugh…). The large number of buttons and small non-touch screen is much worse. 2 mornings now, I plugged my phone into the USB port to charge while driving, and about 25 minutes into my commute I got some random message saying that there were too many files on my device so the voice response on the car wouldn't work (WTF?). So I pulled out my emergency cigarette plug USB thingy to use going forward. Regarding insurance and repairs. The first claim check is on its way to me (for ~$12k, all less my deductible, which will get refunded at some point since the other driver was at fault)… Since its repairable, they are at least starting to order parts. I believe there will be much more damage found once work starts. I have a feeling it will take at least 1-2 months to complete repairs. But I really don't want that car back, so I'm now working on a diminished value claim. I stopped by Tesla this afternoon to see if they could help provide a trade estimate that notes the vehicle has repaired crash damage. My insurance also said they would help provide a value estimate. Once I have those, I can put a claim in to the other insurance company. I'm hoping to make the numbers work to just order a replacement and sell/trade this one... Also, I received a copy of the police report of the accident -- attached is a snippet showing the diagram of what happened. My car is Unit 3. I still don't know how the Civic (Unit 1) avoided hitting the 2-3 other cars that were in front of me. The gap from where I was hit and the Yukon/horse trailer came to a stop was only a couple car lengths. This accident could have been so much worse... Attached Thumbnails __________________ ZBB

10-12-2018, 02:53 PM	#2
rumatt Mugwump Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: E46 330i, Chevy Colorado, Tesla Model 3 Location: NY Posts: 17,475	There's no logic, or rational explanation for me ordering the model 3. I didn't even want one, for all the reasons stated above. I only test drove one on a whim. Something about the test drive made me want it. Having 400+ HP instantly with zero lag might have had something to do with it. I just hope that whatever made me like it so much during test drive continues on through ownership. I'm only partly convinced that it will. I'd say drive one. Until then, it won't make sense. You might hate it... but you might say, "MUST HAVE. that other shit doesn't matter. Take my CA$H MONEY!!!111!"

10-12-2018, 09:11 PM	#4
John V No more BMWs Join Date: Apr 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: Ram, MS3, CX-5, RX-8 Location: Glenwood, MD Posts: 14,753	The wiper speed control is on the touch screen, right? Look, I like touch screens. The Model S is fine. But there is a reason we have controls on steering wheel stalks. It's because it makes sense to do that. It seems like a great car for $45,000. But I can't get one for that, nor do I have $45,000 to spend on a car, so I'll just move along...

10-13-2018, 10:24 AM	#6
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,640	The whole idea behind the Tesla is that lots of systems that previously were manual can now be reliably automated and just run in the background. Lots of cars have gotten to this point—I don’t think I’ve ever touched the headlight control in my VW, and I rarely do anything but turn the Hvac on and off—but Tesla’s idea is if you don’t use these controls anyway, why have all these dedicated buttons for them? It mostly works. The screen takes some getting used to, but it’s pretty intuitive and well laid out. JVs other complaint about servicing is legit. Tesla service has been generally pretty good compared to anything else I’ve used, but DIY service is still not for the faint of heart. That said, it’s not like you can’t do it; there’s a whole community out there working on modding the cars and figuring out how to service them. Honestly it might appeal to JV once he’s done designing and building a race car in his barn.

10-14-2018, 12:10 AM	#7
rumatt Mugwump Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: E46 330i, Chevy Colorado, Tesla Model 3 Location: NY Posts: 17,475	Not everyone's delivery is going smoothly. https://twitter.com/john_c_joseph/st...34232964718592

10-14-2018, 11:22 AM	#9
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,640	Yeah. I don’t doubt that guy has had issues, but also he sounds like a douche.

10-17-2018, 11:05 AM	#10
rumatt Mugwump Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: E46 330i, Chevy Colorado, Tesla Model 3 Location: NY Posts: 17,475	So I have a VIN, and in theory I'm scheduled for delivery this coming Monday. The communication from my IDA has been very poor. I have a feeling things delay, but we'll see. The web site also lists the $2000 NY State discount in the amount when computing the total amount I'm supposed to bring. I might refuse to take the car if they try to change that last minute. I changed my order to a performance version only after they explicitly told me I would keep that discount.