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Old 04-01-2016, 08:41 AM   #121
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Hm, looks worse to me, but with the shaky potato video footage it's hard to tell. The model S is really bad in that regard.

I hope that glass roof is really well tinted, otherwise the rear seat passengers are going to bake.
The door opening does look really squeezed at the hip.

I guess there won't be an option for a normal roof.
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:49 AM   #122
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The door opening does look really squeezed at the hip.

I guess there won't be an option for a normal roof.
The big glass roof in the S doesn't bother me, except that the factory did a really bad job (at least on Ken's car) of applying the sealing goo. If you're sitting in the back seat and look up at it, you see a big black blob of what looks like Liquid Nails indiscriminately applied to seal the glass to the structure.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:10 AM   #123
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http://youtu.be/16SWVS56aZU
This video is helpful; gives a good view of the rear glass and (at 3:24) the trunk opening.
Thanks. Thats a small trunk opening.

Too bad I have nowhere to plug it in. Maybe some day.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:21 AM   #124
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In 1974, I owned a Renault Caravelle 1.1 liter.

looking at this Tesla reminds me of the Caravelle nose

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Old 04-01-2016, 09:23 AM   #125
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Wow. That's a dead ringer.

At least with the model3 it will be an easy decision to bolt on the front license tag holder.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:25 AM   #126
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The big glass roof in the S doesn't bother me, except that the factory did a really bad job (at least on Ken's car) of applying the sealing goo. If you're sitting in the back seat and look up at it, you see a big black blob of what looks like Liquid Nails indiscriminately applied to seal the glass to the structure.
Build quality on the earlier cars was...spotty. And the service center fix for a lot of the rattling issues that afflicted early production cars was "apply more adhesive." There have been some issues reported with the giant glass on the Model X, but I think overall they're getting a lot better with this.

I'm going to have to let myself think about the design a bit. I don't love the Continental nose, but maybe I will get used to it. I'm kind of bummed about it not being a hatch, but I can see the trade-off between headroom and hatch space making that difficult--the Model S already has not so much headroom, esp. without the glass roof.

I'm not sure the glass roof will be standard. Did Musk address that?

I'm also not sure how I feel about the Prius-esque IP. I get the rationale for it, but I'm not sold on the idea that a speed display in the corner of that screen is enough. A HUD wouldn't surprise me, though.

Overall? I'd say it meets or exceeds what I was expecting in most respects. I don't think anything I've seen is a deal breaker. We'll see how it develops.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:27 AM   #127
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Oh, and did anyone else notice? Adjustable seat belt mounts. Haven't seen those in a while.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:30 AM   #128
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:35 AM   #129
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I'm going to have to let myself think about the design a bit. I don't love the Continental nose, but maybe I will get used to it. I'm kind of bummed about it not being a hatch, but I can see the trade-off between headroom and hatch space making that difficult--the Model S already has not so much headroom, esp. without the glass roof.

I'm not sure the glass roof will be standard. Did Musk address that?

I'm also not sure how I feel about the Prius-esque IP. I get the rationale for it, but I'm not sold on the idea that a speed display in the corner of that screen is enough. A HUD wouldn't surprise me, though.

Overall? I'd say it meets or exceeds what I was expecting in most respects. I don't think anything I've seen is a deal breaker. We'll see how it develops.
I never heard any talk of the glass being optional. He went on about how it gives a spacious "feeling" numerous times.

This car looks to have a much higher roof profile than the mS. Outside of real estate agents, how many people actually put adults in the backseat anyway.

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Oh, and did anyone else notice? Adjustable seat belt mounts. Haven't seen those in a while.
You mean the slidey things for the shoulder belt height? Don't all (newish) cars have those?
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I never heard any talk of the glass being optional. He went on about how it gives a spacious "feeling" numerous times.

This car looks to have a much higher roof profile than the mS. Outside of real estate agents, how many people actually put adults in the backseat anyway.



You mean the slidey things for the shoulder belt height? Don't all (newish) cars have those?
They did for a while, but lately they seem to have gone away.
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