Cars I don't want to want

John V · 10-17-2018, 02:36 PM

In between meetings at work, so a counterpoint to the other thread. Cars that I nearly constantly think about, and which I wish I could get out of my subconscious.

1) Third gen RX-7. Have driven a few over the years and been very underwhelmed, but the shape of these calls to me without fail roughly once a year. I have no practical (or impractical, even) use for one. And they're expensive now, even for junky ones. and they're all junky, because they were junky when Mazda built them. But I really want one. If I were rich, I'd have one to park in the garage and look at. Not to drive. Because, you know, you want to get home.

2) Another E36 M3. Coupe. No sunroof. Manual seats. Preferably in white or yellow (sorry, Bren). I loved driving Nick's with the Euro swap, but the gearing was all wrong and I'd need to swap in a faster ratio steering rack. But I would totally daily drive the hell out of one of these... and then rapidly remember why I sold my '95, which yes I'm glad you asked I sold because they're kind of clunky cars with interiors that disintegrate. But they're from that era where BMW made pretty simple, analog cars with airy interiors. Every modern (turbo) BMW I've driven has been not very enjoyable (laggy DBW throttle, soggy engine mapping and turbo response, unengaging noises, disconnected steering, suspect reliability).

3) Mazda RX-8. This is going to sound weird, because I have one, but I can't get the thought of a street-legal RX-8 out of my head. Not with a Renesis, because... no. Cheap V8 swap is the easy button, but I do worry that it would ruin the feel of the car a little bit. People are starting to swap GM V6s into these cars, but ... yeah, no. Nevermind that I don't have time to build a street RX-8 with an engine swap. I still want one. And I don't want to.

lemming · 10-17-2018, 02:42 PM

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1973 RS
C5 Z06
997 GT3

Like you, my eye goes back to the more analog cars.

Outright speed matters less and less. It’s the subjectivity of the driving experience that matters to me.

rumatt · 10-17-2018, 03:20 PM

equ · 10-17-2018, 10:13 PM

I like the idea of this reverse thread (or was Matt's first thread opposite to begin with?).

Guilty pleasures, or cars that we can't stop thinking about. For me, based on looks, it's the Alfa Giulia sedan. Even in the 4-cyl form, it just speaks to me. Haven't driven one.

Caymans, I can hardly get them out of my head. But I have to remind myself that I have one of the best spec'ced Boxsters possible and would lose a ton switching out. Not to mention disappoint C.

wdc330i · 10-18-2018, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by equ

I like the idea of this reverse thread (or was Matt's first thread opposite to begin with?).

Guilty pleasures, or cars that we can't stop thinking about. For me, based on looks, it's the Alfa Giulia sedan. Even in the 4-cyl form, it just speaks to me. Haven't driven one.

Caymans, I can hardly get them out of my head. But I have to remind myself that I have one of the best spec'ced Boxsters possible and would lose a ton switching out. Not to mention disappoint C.

I am also drawn to the Caymans, despite the fact that I’m a diehard convertible person and I find the form factor of both the Caymanand Boxster hard to get in and out of.

A Miata or Fiat version are on the list.

And my random American pick: Corvette Stingray.

John V · 10-18-2018, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdc330i

I am also drawn to the Caymans, despite the fact that I’m a diehard convertible person and I find the form factor of both the Caymanand Boxster hard to get in and out of.

A Miata or Fiat version are on the list.

And my random American pick: Corvette Stingray.

After my C5 experience and having a good friend with a C6 Z06 I firmly decided I'm not a Corvette person.

But then I drove a C7 Grand Sport and .. uh... argh...

kognito · 10-18-2018, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdc330i

I am also drawn to the Caymans, despite the fact that I’m a diehard convertible person and I find the form factor of both the Caymanand Boxster hard to get in and out of.

A Miata or Fiat version are on the list.

And my random American pick: Dodge Viper.

Fixed

wdc330i · 10-18-2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kognito

Fixed

No way!

kognito · 10-18-2018, 09:25 AM

Hmm, I thought the Viper was the biggest head turner for all of us who would never own one

Nick M3 · 10-18-2018, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdc330i

I am also drawn to the Caymans, despite the fact that I’m a diehard convertible person and I find the form factor of both the Caymanand Boxster hard to get in and out of.

A Miata or Fiat version are on the list.

And my random American pick: Corvette Stingray.

A Stingray convertible would be very pleasant to have. It's just car like enough to actually be drivable, and it's definitely a fun car to be in.

10-17-2018, 02:36 PM	#1
John V No more BMWs Join Date: Apr 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: Ram, MS3, CX-5, RX-8 Location: Glenwood, MD Posts: 14,753	Cars I don't want to want In between meetings at work, so a counterpoint to the other thread. Cars that I nearly constantly think about, and which I wish I could get out of my subconscious. 1) Third gen RX-7. Have driven a few over the years and been very underwhelmed, but the shape of these calls to me without fail roughly once a year. I have no practical (or impractical, even) use for one. And they're expensive now, even for junky ones. and they're all junky, because they were junky when Mazda built them. But I really want one. If I were rich, I'd have one to park in the garage and look at. Not to drive. Because, you know, you want to get home. 2) Another E36 M3. Coupe. No sunroof. Manual seats. Preferably in white or yellow (sorry, Bren). I loved driving Nick's with the Euro swap, but the gearing was all wrong and I'd need to swap in a faster ratio steering rack. But I would totally daily drive the hell out of one of these... and then rapidly remember why I sold my '95, which yes I'm glad you asked I sold because they're kind of clunky cars with interiors that disintegrate. But they're from that era where BMW made pretty simple, analog cars with airy interiors. Every modern (turbo) BMW I've driven has been not very enjoyable (laggy DBW throttle, soggy engine mapping and turbo response, unengaging noises, disconnected steering, suspect reliability). 3) Mazda RX-8. This is going to sound weird, because I have one, but I can't get the thought of a street-legal RX-8 out of my head. Not with a Renesis, because... no. Cheap V8 swap is the easy button, but I do worry that it would ruin the feel of the car a little bit. People are starting to swap GM V6s into these cars, but ... yeah, no. Nevermind that I don't have time to build a street RX-8 with an engine swap. I still want one. And I don't want to.

10-17-2018, 02:42 PM	#2
lemming Western Anomaly Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca Posts: 16,594	964 1973 RS C5 Z06 997 GT3 Like you, my eye goes back to the more analog cars. Outright speed matters less and less. It’s the subjectivity of the driving experience that matters to me. __________________

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kognito older fart than ZBB Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: On the road again Posts: 8,897	Hmm, I thought the Viper was the biggest head turner for all of us who would never own one __________________ 2017 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE 2020 Fusion Titanium

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equ Alphanumeric Join Date: Aug 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: 981S, 340i Posts: 9,583	I like the idea of this reverse thread (or was Matt's first thread opposite to begin with?). Guilty pleasures, or cars that we can't stop thinking about. For me, based on looks, it's the Alfa Giulia sedan. Even in the 4-cyl form, it just speaks to me. Haven't driven one. Caymans, I can hardly get them out of my head. But I have to remind myself that I have one of the best spec'ced Boxsters possible and would lose a ton switching out. Not to mention disappoint C.