New E60 M5 6M is laughable

JST · 12-27-2006, 07:08 PM

Just got the new C/D, which has a review of the new 6 speed manual M5--actually, a comparo with the S6 and the E63.

The M5 loses. To both the Audi and the Merc.

Why?

Because on the 6M cars, YOU CAN'T DISABLE STABILITY CONTROL.

W.

T.

F?

I mean, seriously. I would like someone at BMW NA to show me a Venn diagram of the people who a) want a manual transmission, but b) don't care about ever pushing the car hard enough to want to disable the electronic nannies. Are there, what, 5 people like that? That might be optimistic. Is BMW going to sell ANY M5s with a manual? Why go to the time and expense of retrofitting a manual if you are going to destroy its marketibility that way?

Fucking lame.

operknockity · 12-27-2006, 07:11 PM

Welcome to the New BMW

rumatt · 12-27-2006, 07:18 PM

Let's hope that's not how it works on the E90 M3.

lemming · 12-27-2006, 07:20 PM

that's something that sounds so Lexus. doesn't it?

i wonder if they'll see the error of their ways and soon retrofit a disabling mechanism. BMW is stupid, but they've shown a tendency to go back and make it right. sometimes.

*Plaz* · 12-27-2006, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemming

that's something that sounds so Lexus. doesn't it?

i wonder if they'll see the error of their ways and soon retrofit a disabling mechanism. BMW is stupid, but they've shown a tendency to go back and make it right. sometimes.

2001 3er steering rack comes to mind.

zach · 12-27-2006, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rumatt

Let's hope that's not how it works on the E90 M3.

I don't think BMW has any plans to offer the e90 M3 in the manly shade of blue that you prefer.

In all seriousness, does anyone know if BMW plans on making the e90/2 M3 SMG-only initially?

BahnBaum · 12-27-2006, 11:06 PM

As each new M3 variant was introduced, I loved the look more with each new model.

Until now.

Before it was developed, I had always planned on buying the new one at some point. Now, I'm pretty sure I won't.

Alex

FC · 12-27-2006, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JST

W.

T.

F?

Fucking lame.

Indeed.

Nick M3 · 12-28-2006, 12:53 AM

I have heard that BMW has noticed just how much this pisses people off, and will be offering a "retrofit." Don't know if it's true, though.

rumatt · 12-28-2006, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BahnBaum

As each new M3 variant was introduced, I loved the look more with each new model.

Until now.

The E92 M3 is out already?

12-27-2006, 07:08 PM	#1
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,611	New E60 M5 6M is laughable Just got the new C/D, which has a review of the new 6 speed manual M5--actually, a comparo with the S6 and the E63. The M5 loses. To both the Audi and the Merc. Why? Because on the 6M cars, YOU CAN'T DISABLE STABILITY CONTROL. W. T. F? I mean, seriously. I would like someone at BMW NA to show me a Venn diagram of the people who a) want a manual transmission, but b) don't care about ever pushing the car hard enough to want to disable the electronic nannies. Are there, what, 5 people like that? That might be optimistic. Is BMW going to sell ANY M5s with a manual? Why go to the time and expense of retrofitting a manual if you are going to destroy its marketibility that way? Fucking lame.

12-27-2006, 07:20 PM	#4
lemming Western Anomaly Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca Posts: 16,611	that's something that sounds so Lexus. doesn't it? i wonder if they'll see the error of their ways and soon retrofit a disabling mechanism. BMW is stupid, but they've shown a tendency to go back and make it right. sometimes. __________________

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BahnBaum Tilting Rocinante Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Havre de Grace, MD Posts: 6,244	As each new M3 variant was introduced, I loved the look more with each new model. Until now. Before it was developed, I had always planned on buying the new one at some point. Now, I'm pretty sure I won't. Alex __________________

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Nick M3 Relic Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 12,458	I have heard that BMW has noticed just how much this pisses people off, and will be offering a "retrofit." Don't know if it's true, though. __________________ 2011 M3 2006 Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison 2004 X5 3.0i 6MT 1995 M3 S50B32 1990 325is 1989 M3 S54B32 Hers: 1989 325iX 1996 911 Turbo

12-27-2006, 07:11 PM	#2
operknockity Finn is in puppy heaven Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: '02 325i Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,405	Welcome to the New BMW

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rumatt Mugwump Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: E46 330i, Chevy Colorado, Tesla Model 3 Location: NY Posts: 17,475	Let's hope that's not how it works on the E90 M3.