10-28-2018, 07:24 PM | #941 | |
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I'll take my $5k back. I also think supercharging should not be free - or cheaper than you can charge at home. It creates all the wrong incentives for people and screws over people traveling and needing a charge. |
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10-28-2018, 08:51 PM | #942 |
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Paid Supercharging is the standard now.
And the cost is at least 2x the cost of charging at home.ll
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10-28-2018, 09:54 PM | #943 | |
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Was it like cruise control++ and lane assist++ as in you sat back for the highway and road portions, but actually did the driving in Manhattan, and the dark difficult bits to your house? Or did you only intervene 3 times the WHOLE way, including city streets, red lights, turns etc? Like just watched it drive, given an address taking exits etc. |
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10-28-2018, 10:55 PM | #944 | |
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I didn't try to use it in NYC city streets, and I didn't use it once I got off the highway (taconic). I also used it coming into the city Friday night. I hit a 10 minute traffic jam at the Henry Hudson bridge. It was flawelss. Creep, stop. Creep, stop. Instead of lane jockeying to try to get 30 seconds ahead I just sat back and watched the car drive. I suspect the novelty will wear off ... but maybe not? |
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10-29-2018, 12:30 AM | #945 | |||
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There were four Teslas at today's event. An X and 3 3s. The 3s were listed as Tesla 3-P75D+, Tesla Model 3, and Asgardian Sparkles (which rumatt and JST tell me was a Performance w/o Performance Upgrade Package). Sparkles was the only one driven by a decent driver and it was a good bit slower than me in my Camaro. Tires were definitely a factor, but not as much as they would have on a totally dry course in 80 degree weather. It was low 50s when we ran, mostly cloudy and the course was partly dry, a bit damp in places and wet here and there. I'm on wide tires made for autocross and Sparkles was on the 235 Michelin MX whatever All Seasons. The car can probably take 245s, but I'm not sure about 255s. Maybe the tiniest chance in hell that wheels taking full advantage of the 7mm offset allowance would allow 265s, but I wouldn't expect it to work. There's almost no room for clearance in there. I saw Sparkles do one run and it looked okay, but not special. I didn't have a chance to talk to the driver after we ran, but will soon, I'm sure. I did not see the other two 3s. They ran in the afternoon after I left, but their times were not impressive. Quote:
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And I list my car at some autocrosses as "half the bangers pony car" instead of Camaro, so I know what I'm talking about.
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10-29-2018, 10:34 AM | #946 |
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The Tesla naming convention thing is kind of silly, but part of it is that they are trying to move away from battery sizes as a model designator because they think their propulsion tech is better (read as more efficient) than their competitors. A 75Kwh Tesla might thus be the equivalent of a 90Kwh Jaguar.
It's also complicated by the fact that they can't use Model E, or have decided they can't, so the Model 3 lineup isn't consistent with the S or X. It's also complicated by the fact that none of the Model 3s have any badging yet. There will eventually be a DUAL MOTOR badge for the trunk, and for the Performance cars it will be underlined, but as of now they all just have bare asses. Anyway, now that all of the Performance cars are coming standard with the upgrade, it's less of an issue. It really should just be Model 3P, in shorthand, or P3D, I guess. |
10-29-2018, 11:55 AM | #947 | |
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Who wants "DUAL MOTOR" on the back of their car? |
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10-29-2018, 12:08 PM | #948 |
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Kind of reminds me of other badges that struck me as silly. Ford had a bunch of them in the 70's and 80's.
Lots of manufacturers adorned their cars with badges proclaiming "Fuel Injection" or "5-speed" or simply the size of the engine. |
10-29-2018, 12:11 PM | #949 |
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10-29-2018, 12:31 PM | #950 |
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One thing that worries me about the Tesla is the idea that repairs could be crazy expensive if something goes horribly wrong out of warranty.
When adding the car to my Geico policy they offered me an extended warranty. (they call it "Mechanical Breakdown Insurance"). It's only for new vehicles. The terms are
I took the deal. Hopefully I won't need it, but if I do they will actually pay up. |
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