Tesla Model S waffling - Page 106

lemming · 01-12-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by John V

1) That thing is hideous
2) I hate Jalopnik. It's like clickbait for cars.

this car is the anti-Model S. it's not made to be exclusive or to project anything elite. i think the styling of the concept Bolt reflect that they're going after the middle 75% of the CRV/RAV4/Equinox/Escape market with the Bolt.

when it's in production, i strongly suspect it will still be oodles more palatable than the BMW i3. and while the styling will be derivative, it's only $30,000. derivative styling for $100,000 is less acceptable, IMHO.

equ · 01-12-2015, 06:15 PM

I don't see anything wrong with the Bolt's looks. There is only one way for cars with a compact footprint to be spacious, and that is by being tall.

I really liked the i3 in person, tall but lowish CoG, great visibility, RWD, mostly carbon, not a hooligan by any stretch but a decent drive. While it is expensive, you get a lot for your money. It will be interesting to follow it for a year/20k miles at Edmunds that just kicked off a long term test.

equ · 01-12-2015, 06:21 PM

On a side note, I find Jalopnik highly entertaining and efficient/fast to read. The headlines are click-bait-y, absolutely, but it's done "ironically". Anyway, they are a bunch of guys who love cars and they are trying to keep their heads up in today's sink-or-swim media environment with a good bit of millenial language/attitudes thrown in.

bren · 01-12-2015, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemming

this car is the anti-Model S. it's not made to be exclusive or to project anything elite. i think the styling of the concept Bolt reflect that they're going after the middle 75% of the CRV/RAV4/Equinox/Escape market with the Bolt.

.. and that will be its downfall.

They better fix the production version, because nobody is going to but that ugly thing. How many Ford Cmax's do you see?

John V · 01-13-2015, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by equ

On a side note, I find Jalopnik highly entertaining and efficient/fast to read. The headlines are click-bait-y, absolutely, but it's done "ironically". Anyway, they are a bunch of guys who love cars and they are trying to keep their heads up in today's sink-or-swim media environment with a good bit of millenial language/attitudes thrown in.

I used to see it that way (despite the proliferation of bad grammar / proofreading), but lately (the last year?) they've devolved into purely clickbait headlines and misleading / factually incorrect articles. I don't think it's done ironically, I think it's done to get attention. They accept content from just about anyone, so if someone sends them a piece they thing is interesting they'll post it. Maybe this is to compete with TTAC (Baruth).

*clyde* · 01-13-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by John V

I used to see it that way (despite the proliferation of bad grammar / proofreading), but lately (the last year?) they've devolved into purely clickbait headlines and misleading / factually incorrect articles. I don't think it's done ironically, I think it's done to get attention. They accept content from just about anyone, so if someone sends them a piece they thing is interesting they'll post it. Maybe this is to compete with TTAC (Baruth).

I think there has been an expansion of content posted to Jalopnik. There's probably the same volume of quality content as in the past, but there's a lot more crap to go along with it now.

The RSS feed that populates the forum here is even worse than Jalopnik proper.

John V · 01-13-2015, 04:57 PM

Example of Jalopnik crap:

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/wel...s-f-1678840826

*clyde* · 01-13-2015, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John V

Example of Jalopnik crap:

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/wel...s-f-1678840826

Yeah, see, that's not Jalopnik. That's Oppositie Lock.

John V · 01-14-2015, 05:58 AM

It appears to reside on the Jalopnik domain.

JST · 01-14-2015, 06:42 AM

It does. It's "user generated content," meaning Jalopnik gets the clicks but doesn't have to pay for it. Kind of like CNN iReport. There's some editorial control on which Opposite Lock features get promoted to the front page; if this was featured on the main page, then Jalopnik bears some responsibility.

01-12-2015, 06:15 PM	#1052
equ Alphanumeric Join Date: Aug 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: 981S, 340i Posts: 9,584	I don't see anything wrong with the Bolt's looks. There is only one way for cars with a compact footprint to be spacious, and that is by being tall. I really liked the i3 in person, tall but lowish CoG, great visibility, RWD, mostly carbon, not a hooligan by any stretch but a decent drive. While it is expensive, you get a lot for your money. It will be interesting to follow it for a year/20k miles at Edmunds that just kicked off a long term test.

01-12-2015, 06:21 PM	#1053
equ Alphanumeric Join Date: Aug 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: 981S, 340i Posts: 9,584	On a side note, I find Jalopnik highly entertaining and efficient/fast to read. The headlines are click-bait-y, absolutely, but it's done "ironically". Anyway, they are a bunch of guys who love cars and they are trying to keep their heads up in today's sink-or-swim media environment with a good bit of millenial language/attitudes thrown in.

01-13-2015, 04:57 PM	#1057
John V No more BMWs Join Date: Apr 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: Ram, MS3, CX-5, RX-8 Location: Glenwood, MD Posts: 14,753	Example of Jalopnik crap: http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/wel...s-f-1678840826

01-14-2015, 05:58 AM	#1059
John V No more BMWs Join Date: Apr 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: Ram, MS3, CX-5, RX-8 Location: Glenwood, MD Posts: 14,753	It appears to reside on the Jalopnik domain.

01-14-2015, 06:42 AM	#1060
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,611	It does. It's "user generated content," meaning Jalopnik gets the clicks but doesn't have to pay for it. Kind of like CNN iReport. There's some editorial control on which Opposite Lock features get promoted to the front page; if this was featured on the main page, then Jalopnik bears some responsibility.