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Old 09-14-2017, 05:50 PM   #311
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back-calculated into 1980s and 1990s money though, I'd bet the cars are cheaper now. the 993 was a helluva expensive car --no wonder Porsche almost died.

it is still shocking, though, when you are not ready to see what a GTS runs for --but consider that it is literally the fastest non-"Turbo" 911, it comes into focus. Because the 991.2 Turbo stickers for $193k, I think.
Maybe you haven't heard, but the average pay hasn't exactly kept pace. And it's easier and cheaper to manufacture goods nowadays.
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Old 09-14-2017, 06:45 PM   #312
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Maybe you haven't heard, but the average pay hasn't exactly kept pace. And it's easier and cheaper to manufacture goods nowadays.
and Porsche has the highest profit per vehicle in the industry
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:25 PM   #313
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Maybe you haven't heard, but the average pay hasn't exactly kept pace. And it's easier and cheaper to manufacture goods nowadays.
i guess i never think about that. i see your point.

i never buy new vehicles so I haven't had real sticker shock in awhile.
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Old 09-21-2017, 08:14 PM   #314
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back-calculated into 1980s and 1990s money though, I'd bet the cars are cheaper now. the 993 was a helluva expensive car --no wonder Porsche almost died.

it is still shocking, though, when you are not ready to see what a GTS runs for --but consider that it is literally the fastest non-"Turbo" 911, it comes into focus. Because the 991.2 Turbo stickers for $193k, I think.
If I had THAT kind of money to blow, I'd buy 3 cars: WRX STi, Ford Raptor, Camaro ZL-1 and spend the remaining $44k on a couple of motorcycles.

Then I'd have a different vehicle to drive or ride every day of the week !!
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Old 09-22-2017, 01:39 AM   #315
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I remember back when base 911's use to start in the $60ks(or 70ks?)
In the 90's the base 993C2 started at under 60K IIRC. The 993TT was about 110k.

I do know that when the 997 came out in '05, the base 911 was 70K and the S was 80K.

There was also a time when the 986S was 50k. I recall that my '07 987S MSRP'd for 64k and I thought that was outrageous and was glad to get it CPO'd with low miles and less than two years for 40k.

Now you would be looking at a 987.2S with 6+ years and many more miles to get down to 40k. Hard to find a new 718S in stock for less than 80K it seems.

Crazy.

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Old 09-22-2017, 07:21 AM   #316
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In the 90's the base 992C2 started at under 60K IIRC. The 993TT was about 110k.

I do know that when the 997 came out in '05, the base 911 was 70K and the S was 80K.

There was also a time when the 986S was 50k. I recall that my '07 987S MSRP'd for 64k and I thought that was outrageous and was glad to get it CPO'd with low miles and less than two years for 40k.

Now you would be looking at a 987.2S with 6+ years and many more miles to e to 40k. Hard to find a new 718S in stock for less than 80K it seems.

Crazy.
That's why when I found the fully loaded 718s with the price mistake, we jumped on it. I've only seen used ones with fewer bells and whistles at our price. MSRP on ours was around $90k, which is insane.
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:50 AM   #317
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I was sort of thinking to myself, "is there a 911 that I not only wouldn't buy, I wouldn't even take possession of before I listed it for sale if someone gave it to me?"

The answer, it turns out, is yes. There are at least two of them this week on BaT.

This one looks like Crockett threw up on it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...e-911-turbo-9/


This one is weakly whispering 'kill me,' over and over again. It knows it is an abomination that should not exist.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-porsche-911-5/
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:50 PM   #318
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That first one is disgusting! I never ever understood the whole slant nose thing.
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They're not sooooo bad.
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They're not sooooo bad.
No, they are so bad. They are worse than that.
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