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Old 12-16-2019, 03:41 PM   #11
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Nope. They went touch screen mad a couple years ago and removed nearly all physical buttons. Pretty stupid.


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I'd probably be mad at CarPlay, too, then.
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Old 12-16-2019, 03:54 PM   #12
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NPR WNYC and Jazz 88 WBGO. I can't do radio commercials
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:53 PM   #13
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I sometimes stream a San Diego radio station. But, I know that's weird
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:55 PM   #14
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-The iDrive system works well for a very few specific functions, where you don't have to look at the screen at all.



-It is worse for every other function, and requires far more attention than a large touch screen does.



I agree on CarPlay, though. I generally don't like it; the one and only situation where I do is in rental cars, where it's better than trying to figure out the native OS in 30 seconds before I have to start driving.


Hmm- trying to think of places where idrive is worse than a touch screen. The only things I can think of are manually entering destinations in the nav (Which I rarely had to do since the voice recognition was excellent in idrive 6) or using Apple carplay (Which my old car didn’t have but even if it did I wouldn’t have bothered with it). For which functionality do you find it less convenient than a touch screen ?


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Old 12-16-2019, 06:41 PM   #15
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I sometimes stream a San Diego radio station. But, I know that's weird
which one?

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I listen to the radio. I get tired of trying to figure out what to listen to and the playlists never seem as good.
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Old 12-16-2019, 07:28 PM   #16
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I just slide a cassette in the dash and turn up the volume...

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Old 12-16-2019, 09:00 PM   #17
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Anything that requires any kind of text entry or menu navigation.

I listen to the radio (NPR or XM) in the BMW because I can’t be bothered to find a song I want to listen to on my phone. Much easier in the Tesla.

Changing sources also a pain in the ass with I drive.

Entering any kind of phone number.

I use the nav all the time in the Tesla because destination entry is so easy. I only occasionally do in the BMW, when I can be bothered to launch the separate BMW app on my phone—even that beats using I drive.

I drive is better really only for hitting mute on conference calls. Otherwise I just use the memory buttons to select new stations.
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which one?

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I listen to the radio. I get tired of trying to figure out what to listen to and the playlists never seem as good.
91X. Only listen in short bursts because their heavy rotation stuff is very heavy rotation most of the day, but I like hearing the DJ banter and SD local stuff between songs. Even the ads. When I can, I like to hear some of the Resurrection Sunday and Loudspeaker shows.
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Old 12-17-2019, 12:16 AM   #19
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Anything that requires any kind of text entry or menu navigation.



I listen to the radio (NPR or XM) in the BMW because I can’t be bothered to find a song I want to listen to on my phone. Much easier in the Tesla.



Changing sources also a pain in the ass with I drive.



Entering any kind of phone number.



I use the nav all the time in the Tesla because destination entry is so easy. I only occasionally do in the BMW, when I can be bothered to launch the separate BMW app on my phone—even that beats using I drive.



I drive is better really only for hitting mute on conference calls. Otherwise I just use the memory buttons to select new stations.


The built in streaming media on the Tesla system is nice. Surprisingly, my LR has a built in Spotify player but it requires a premium account and I’m not really a Spotify user. Kind of curious to try it out though. Changing sources with the bmw steering wheel should just be a matter of hitting the “mode” button iirc.

Idrive 6 brought a vast improvement in speech recognition - and I used nav all the time in our bmw. Unfortunately I think your car still has the previous gen. So, yeah, text entry with the knob sucks. Does yours have the handwriting recognition? Once you get used to it I found that works pretty well and you can keep your eyes on the road.

I found Selecting stations or songs easy in the bmw since you could quickly scroll through the list either using the steering wheel or idrive controller. I don’t think Tesla lets you use either of the scroll wheels to do that iirc (just to change source), right? Scrolling through lists such as phone numbers, stations or songs is something I did pretty often and I find it so fast and easy with the idrive controller or steering wheel.


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