12-08-2013, 05:00 PM | #341 | |
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i agree with you about lower c.o.g. --i just picked up 535 xdrive wagon to replace 135i.
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12-08-2013, 07:35 PM | #342 |
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The new 328's are just so expensive. I look at what I paid for my 335 vs. a comparable 328, and it was a no-brainer. My parents are also picking up a new F30 335 in a few weeks to replace their E90 328xi that is coming off lease, and the cost gap between the F30 328 and 335 was also a no-brainer in their case as well.
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12-08-2013, 07:47 PM | #343 | |
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I agree with you though, the cost differential between the models when leasing is minimal.
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12-08-2013, 08:25 PM | #344 |
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I saw a spec'd 328 diesel wagon on the dealers lot not too long ago that stickered for $61k.
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12-09-2013, 07:22 AM | #345 |
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There are a lot more gizmos available on the 3 that were once the domain of the 5. And hp is better than the old 330i. But still. Glad we bought the e91, and plan to hold on to it for a long time. Ditto the e70. It's hard to imagine climbing the mountain again for a new BMW.
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12-09-2013, 07:43 AM | #346 | |
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Yeah that's crazy, but you can exercise restraint. My 335xi sedan is mostly loaded except for a few silly options and stickered for $57k. My folks are getting a slightly more modest 335xi that stickers for $53.5k. There are the oddball examples of BMWs out there, but you have to remember that BMW is offering a lot more optional equipment these days because the margins on options are HUGE... things like tech gadgets, paint colors and trims. If you do an apples-to-apples comparo only including items you could normally get on prior models, it's really not that bad.
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12-09-2013, 09:01 AM | #347 |
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I said this in the past... Prior to getting the Tesla, I specced out a 335, an A5 and an A7.
The 335 and A5 were both $55-56k. The A7 was ~$70. Between loan payments, fuel savings, and registration cost, the cost of the Tesla is right about the same as the 335 and A5. The A7 was obviously more. When the Gen III Tesla is out, it should price out fairly similar to a 3er or A4/5. The fuel and registration savings just be bonus...
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12-09-2013, 09:23 AM | #348 | |
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The other criticism of newer cars is always that they are too complex to fix. But that's been said of every generation now and what once seemed like rocket science is now a project for a home enthusiast with a laptop. One if the car mags did a timeline of 911 prices over the years a few months ago. Iirc, prices actually peaked in the 80s. |
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12-09-2013, 10:26 AM | #349 | |
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Also, charging a premium for diesels is no way to get people to "save money" on gas .... the only way to really get ahead of the game is to buy used - starting with CPO and moving downward - I read once a car hits 10 to 15 years it bottoms out in depreciation. |
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12-09-2013, 10:29 AM | #350 |
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Screw CPO. The only real way to stay ahead of the game is to buy used and sell before the car gets too "used." I've done that for years and have essentially driven cars for free for the entire time (minus expendables). Of course to do that you have to be impervious to the new shiny thing phenomenon.
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