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Old 03-15-2018, 02:11 AM   #51
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After work I drove a Tacoma, Canyon, and Ridgeline.

Tacoma: Terrible. The seat and seating position are just ridiculously bad. This truck is made for people 5' tall. I can't believe they put such shit-box seats in a 30-40k truck, and I can't believe so many people buy them. The saleswoman tried to get me to drive a 4runner because it has better seats. I sat in them and they were indeed wonderful compared to the tacoma.

Canyon - I really like these to the point I was almost ready to hear what kind of numbers she could do for me. Apparently it's pretty easy to get $4k or more off MSRP. Two things are blocking me. 1) seats are mediocre at best. 2) She took me on a long test drive part of which was on a wet, bumpy, slippery dirt road. While in 2WD driving straight and accelerating gently, the locker would sometimes engage and the rear would immediately kick out sideways. While fun, it also illustrates the gross mismatch between the technology and what 99% of the people use it for. (99.99%?) It feels like 1970's technolgoy. I suppose dropping it into 4wd would fix things (I didn't have time to go back over the road) but still, it seems like the wrong diff unless you're actually off-roading. And even the off-roaders prefer a switch to avoid the jerking when they kick in.

Ridgeline It's really incredible what Honda created here. This thing drives like a car, and has nearly the utility specs of the other compact trucks. It's also huge inside - it's almost as wide as a full-size truck. But somehow it was boring as f*ck. Zero passion or excitement. And it's butt-ugly too. I want to want it, but I just can't get excited about owning one, no matter how illogical that is.
Somehow, I can't see driving a truck as evoking any sort of "passion" or "excitement".

Then again, I only use mine to haul stuff, tow a boat and drive in the snow........you know, "boring" stuff.

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Old 03-15-2018, 08:31 AM   #52
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Then again, I only use mine to haul stuff, tow a boat and drive in the snow........you know, "boring" stuff.
They're all fun things!!!
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:47 AM   #53
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Somehow, I can't see driving a truck as evoking any sort of "passion" or "excitement".
Seriously. It's a truck. It's for utility and necessity. You have OTHER cars for fun.
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I know you love it, but it seems to me that the e46 is really your problem in this whole car situation.

Its not sporty enough to be a sports car (or maybe it is and the Cayman should just go)
Its not utility enough to carry your bikes and other hobby things
Its not winter enough to get you to your cottage when needed.
Its too old to be a comfy daily driver.

If the e46 got totaled tomorrow and you could start clean slate, how would your approach to this whole situation change?

A raptor and an M2?
A Macan and a z4m?
A X3 msport and an e46 M3?
A Discovery and a 718?
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:44 AM   #55
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I know you love it, but it seems to me that the e46 is really your problem in this whole car situation.
Interesting. Josh may have a point. If you sell the Cayman and the wagon to buy the truck, you're probably putting too much pressure on the truck to be fun and practical at the same time.

You might want to go try a 718s Cayman (try to find a lightly used one). Stay away from the lowered suspension. It's a very easy daily driver. And it's not so precious/collectable that you couldn't mount some sort of bike rack on it.

Then buy a lightly used Macan S for AWD schleppage. And a trailer for hauling crap.

Sell all the other vehicles.
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Its too old to be a comfy daily driver.
Well that's definitely not true.

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If the e46 got totaled tomorrow and you could start clean slate, how would your approach to this whole situation change?
Not sure but I might buy an e46.

But this wasn't meant to be about any of that. It was my thoughts on some trucks.
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Old 03-15-2018, 01:12 PM   #57
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Seriously. It's a truck. It's for utility and necessity. You have OTHER cars for fun.
What are you talking about!? People buy trucky vehicles for fun. Look at jeeps.

It's fun to drive over stuff, and haul stuff around. Just a different kind of fun.
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What are you talking about!? People buy trucky vehicles for fun. Look at jeeps.

It's fun to drive over stuff, and haul stuff around. Just a different kind of fun.
Yeah, I feel you. If I were going to get a truck, I'd want a truck, not a Honda Pilot with a bed. In fact, there's literally no question that I can think of where the answer is "Honda Pilot," with or without a bed.

If I were in your position, I'd wait to see what the Ranger was like, just because I suspect it will be as good or better than the Canyon. I actually think the rumored JL pickup might be even better for you, but who knows when those will be available.
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If I were in your position, I'd wait to see what the Ranger was like, just because I suspect it will be as good or better than the Canyon. I actually think the rumored JL pickup might be even better for you, but who knows when those will be available.
Yeah, the Ranger might not be here until early 2019 though. But that might be fine.

I'm curious about the jeep too. I suspect it'll be weird but who knows.
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What are you talking about!? People buy trucky vehicles for fun. Look at jeeps.

It's fun to drive over stuff, and haul stuff around. Just a different kind of fun.
Ok, NOW I get you.

You're right, it's a different kind of fun. Since I live in a wide open desert, I do a bit of mild 'wheeling. I also love taking my truck out when there's at least a foot of snow. It just plows through it unlike my little car, which struggles at only 4 inches with due-to-be-replaced Yokohama all-season tires.

BTW, if you DO get a stock truck, do NOT go to a store or website like this.

You'd be like a kid in a candy store, LOL.
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