Dial 911

[Josh (PA)]

I bet these are a cheap option.

[Jeff_DML]

all 911s are turbo so he can get a "cheap" one

[lemming]

Originally Posted by wdc330i

What do you have now? Don't you have some sort of 911 iteration?

had a 996 C4S --now driving an E92 M3.

Soon to be driving a 996TT.

As many have written about, it is increasingly difficult to find the 'old' e36m3 era feel in the chassis and in the steering wheel. and maybe it's even wrong to aspire to attain that.

the e46m3 will probably be the last visceral M3. the e92 is a LUXURY car with a Motorsport engine. it can be awesome. even epic soemtimes. and the F80 M3 takes it everything to 11. know what the E92 and F80 are missing? everything that goes with the engines.

[JST]

Originally Posted by lemming

had a 996 C4S --now driving an E92 M3.

Soon to be driving a 996TT.

As many have written about, it is increasingly difficult to find the 'old' e36m3 era feel in the chassis and in the steering wheel. and maybe it's even wrong to aspire to attain that.

the e46m3 will probably be the last visceral M3. the e92 is a LUXURY car with a Motorsport engine. it can be awesome. even epic soemtimes. and the F80 M3 takes it everything to 11. know what the E92 and F80 are missing? everything that goes with the engines.

Just curious, have you thought about a GT3? Or is that two biased toward visceralness?

I've never really seriously considered the Turbo partly because of cost but also just because the extra power seems pretty superfluous in my driving.

[Jeff_DML]

Originally Posted by JST

Just curious, have you thought about a GT3? Or is that two biased toward visceralness?
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GT3 has always been on my bucket list but been wondering if is a bit too extreme for me to mostly drive on the street. I think my turbo rides pretty rough so expecting a 996/997 to be a lot stiffer. Guesssing the 991 GT3 are probably a lot more friendly on the street.

I remember when I test drove a EVO VIII expecting to buy one and was shocked how rough it road and the steering was overly sensitive to me. I thought I was hardcore back then

[Jeff_DML]

GT3 look 997S for JST? Grey interior but maybe stone grey is a bit darker?




https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...s-exhaust.html

[JST]

Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

GT3 look 997S for JST? Grey interior but maybe stone grey is a bit darker?




https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...s-exhaust.html

Grey interior is a deal breaker, that steering wheel is terrible, and I am not down with cars that try and look like other cars.

[Plaz]

I have this idea that when it's finally time in a few years to shed the 1M, I'll get a 991 Carrera S (or GTS).

I haven't even bench raced them, let alone driven a 991.2, so I don't know if these are valid concerns, but there are three things I worry about not liking as much on the 991 as on my 1M:

- Down low torque. I like grunt. 1M doesn't have V8 grunt or anything, but it's got plenty of sack off the line. I suspect the new turbo engines in the 991.2 fulfill this need, but don't know for sure.

- Steering feel. I know a 991 won't have the great hydraulic feel of the 1M, but the 1M also has a really quick ratio, which I LOVE. Some people like a little less jerkiness, but I really really like the quick response. I don't know what the rack ratios are comparatively.

- The feel of the true mechanical LSD. Almost everyone seems to say the newer trick e-diffs are the bees knees, but I don't know. I know I love the feel of both rears really digging in with the 1M.

I could have researched this in probably 5 minutes, but decided to write this post instead.

[Jeff_DML]

Originally Posted by JST

Grey interior is a deal breaker, that steering wheel is terrible, and I am not down with cars that try and look like other cars.

I thought stone might be a dark grey and it is aero kit not a GT3 transplant but I get it. Does have 2 rear seats that I thought might be required for you.

[JST]

Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

I thought stone might be a dark grey and it is aero kit not a GT3 transplant but I get it. Does have 2 rear seats that I thought might be required for you.

I think I might have passed the optimal time for 911 ownership. Kids are getting older (and bigger). K2 might still fit in the back of a 911 for a couple of years (maaaybe), but K1 won't. She can ride in the Boxster now, though.

Plus the prices are dumb. I should have bought a 997 GT3 back in 2011, but...whatever.

For now, it's hard to justify replacing the Boxster with anything. I've had it since 2010 and it still has less than 50K miles on it.