bmw YTD sales: only the MCS was up for the year......

lemming · 01-17-2005, 02:54 PM

....the rest were DOWN.

even the "new" launches or even the "almost new" launches.

i understand that it must be put into the context of an overall down year for most marques, but with BMW bragging about growth, i thought it important to point out that their core product (read: C A R S) completely sagged in the US.

(data can be downloaded or accessed at autonews.com under "data section")

lip277 · 01-17-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lemming

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(data can be downloaded or accessed at autonews.com under "data section")

Not if you're not registered.....
"To gain access to this area, you must be a print subscriber or purchase online access. "

Just FYI in case anyone else was going to go fish around there for some good info. THe good info may be there, but takes a fe $$'s to get to.

lemming · 01-17-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lip277

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Originally Posted by lemming

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(data can be downloaded or accessed at autonews.com under "data section")

Not if you're not registered.....
"To gain access to this area, you must be a print subscriber or purchase online access. "

Just FYI in case anyone else was going to go fish around there for some good info. THe good info may be there, but takes a fe $$'s to get to.

sorry.

'can find a way that you can "view the pdf file" if you PM me --so you don't ahve to go through the hassle of registering and all of that.

:smile:

TD · 01-17-2005, 04:51 PM

Here's all the data without any need to register or pay- http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050104/nytu145_1.html

dan · 01-17-2005, 04:57 PM

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BMW Group Shatters All Past Annual Sales Records
Tuesday January 4, 2:22 pm ET
BMW brand records best month ever

TD · 01-17-2005, 05:07 PM

Yup. Completely on the back of the X3 and 6-series (which have no prior year sales to comare to - a default 100% sales growth). Car sales for all continuing models are down versus last year.

3-series- DOWN 4.82%
5-series- DOWN 2.94% (especially shocking since last years sales were for a lame duck model)
7-series- DOWN 21.09%
Z3/Z4- DOWN 32.82%

I dissected that BS press release when it came out. The verbage is clearly intended to distract the reader from the reality of the numbers. I can't see how anyone could honestly claim these numbers are good.

lemming · 01-17-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TD

Yup. Completely on the back of the X3 and 6-series (which have no prior year slaes to comapre to - a default 100% sales growth). Car sales for all continuing models are down versus last year.

3-series- DOWN 4.82%
5-series- DOWN 2.94% (especially shocking since last years sales were for a lame duck model)
7-series- DOWN 21.09%
Z3/Z4- DOWN 32.82%

I dissected that BS press release when it came out. The verbage is clearly intended to distract the reader from the reality of the numbers. I can't see how anyone could honestly claim these numbers are good.

surprising, actually, with regard to the e60 and the z4.

the cynic that i am, i fully accounted for the x3, the new 6 and the mini as the upward trenders.

TD · 01-17-2005, 05:16 PM

And when you sum up sales for ALL car models (including the 6-series), overall BMW automotive sales are down 5.45% YTD.

I did a cut and past into Excel of the table at the bottom of the BMW press release I linked and added a column to calculate change %. I'd post it if I could figure out how.

01-17-2005, 02:54 PM	#1
lemming Western Anomaly Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: White Orca Posts: 16,612	bmw YTD sales: only the MCS was up for the year...... ....the rest were DOWN. even the "new" launches or even the "almost new" launches. i understand that it must be put into the context of an overall down year for most marques, but with BMW bragging about growth, i thought it important to point out that their core product (read: C A R S) completely sagged in the US. (data can be downloaded or accessed at autonews.com under "data section") __________________

01-17-2005, 04:51 PM	#4
TD Founder emeritus Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 21,007	Here's all the data without any need to register or pay- http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050104/nytu145_1.html

01-17-2005, 05:07 PM	#6
TD Founder emeritus Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 21,007	Yup. Completely on the back of the X3 and 6-series (which have no prior year sales to comare to - a default 100% sales growth). Car sales for all continuing models are down versus last year. 3-series- DOWN 4.82% 5-series- DOWN 2.94% (especially shocking since last years sales were for a lame duck model) 7-series- DOWN 21.09% Z3/Z4- DOWN 32.82% I dissected that BS press release when it came out. The verbage is clearly intended to distract the reader from the reality of the numbers. I can't see how anyone could honestly claim these numbers are good.

01-17-2005, 05:16 PM	#8
TD Founder emeritus Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 21,007	And when you sum up sales for ALL car models (including the 6-series), overall BMW automotive sales are down 5.45% YTD. I did a cut and past into Excel of the table at the bottom of the BMW press release I linked and added a column to calculate change %. I'd post it if I could figure out how.