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Old 12-23-2023, 07:15 PM   #5411
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Indeed time will tell. I do think Porsche will find a way of offering a manual on atkeast one of the regular 911 models (GTS would be the most logical)- they’ve learned that lesson over and over at this point. Manuals = $$$$

One interesting omission in all these rumor articles is that they don’t mention whether the NA 3.6 will be paired with a mild hybrid as well. Hard to believe it wouldn’t but just an observation.


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The suggested power output on the 3.6 NA is allegedly not possible without the aid of mild hybridization. I am just the messenger.

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Old 12-23-2023, 07:53 PM   #5412
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The suggested power output on the 3.6 NA are allegedly not possible without the aid of mild hybridization. I am just the messenger.


Ah ok. Kinda figured now that I think about it since even 100hp/liter would only net 360hp which wouldn’t be enough


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Old 12-24-2023, 08:22 AM   #5413
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The suggested power output on the 3.6 NA is allegedly not possible without the aid of mild hybridization. I am just the messenger.
That sounds right. That is a lot of output per liter without GT3-like tech and revs.
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Old 12-24-2023, 11:52 AM   #5414
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Isn’t the manual gearbox in the 992 basically just the PDK with a manual actuator added? Assuming they integrate the hybrid motor into the PDK, it would seem at least theoretically possible to retain it in a manually actuated version of the transmission.

I agree that the manual is for the time being still a big differentiator for Porsche; I can imagine them trying to work out how to make it work in a hybrid.
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Old 12-24-2023, 11:53 AM   #5415
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Alternatively, if they do it like GM did with the e-Ray, adding power through a motor on the front axle, that would seem to be entirely transmission agnostic.
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Old 12-24-2023, 01:34 PM   #5416
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Alternatively, if they do it like GM did with the e-Ray, adding power through a motor on the front axle, that would seem to be entirely transmission agnostic.
This. That would be my approach. Cars are already DBW and highly digital. It's easy enough to tie the electric motor to gas pedal application when in gear.
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Old 12-25-2023, 12:46 PM   #5417
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Yup I think there are plenty of ways for Porsche to make a manual work with a mild hybrid if they so choose.


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Old 12-26-2023, 12:34 PM   #5418
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Yup I think there are plenty of ways for Porsche to make a manual work with a mild hybrid if they so choose.


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Or —

We could all be screwed and have to buy preowned pre 2025 models.


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Or —

We could all be screwed and have to buy preowned pre 2025 models.



If you are buying a preowned 2025 911 you just might be SOL as MY24 is the end of the line for the 992.1. MY25 = 992.2.
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Old 12-27-2023, 11:18 AM   #5420
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Have you guys seen this?

https://youtu.be/B3Cab0NZxNs?si=bBVLx2qrBfoVhUc-

Two thoughts:

1. The 996TT never felt as fast as 420hp to me.

2. The 992 standard Carrera is totally sandbagging. It’s fucking fast —the new engine is for sure making a lot more power.
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