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Old 02-19-2019, 08:32 PM   #21
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I keep buying these SUV's and it keeps not working out. In reality, I don't really need them other than a few times a year.
I still want to see you I'm a big, old, rusty pickup truck.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:07 PM   #22
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That's a nice car--but 62K? Jesus, that's quite a sticker for a non-M 3.
Speaking of stickers, I saw an M3 for $119000 (at the showroom where I test drove the 340). What has the world come to? I didn't know it was possible. CS or some such thing.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:41 PM   #23
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Speaking of stickers, I saw an M3 for $119000 (at the showroom where I test drove the 340). What has the world come to? I didn't know it was possible. CS or some such thing.
That is crazy for an M3

Pretty sure my sons 340ix (it’s a 2017j was either $62k or $63k Msrp ... these cars can get up there in price but they really do offer a lot and they are pretty awesome.
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:06 PM   #24
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I'd be very open to this... If builds were available, I'd have pulled the trigger with some reasonable discounts. My searches indicate that the manual-available sedans finished building in October 2018.

Track handling package cars have blue brakes (silly) and no fog lights (also silly as I somehow like fog lights). However, the drive is sweet.
Yeah. My car has blue brakes and no fog light. I also really like fog lights.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:38 AM   #25
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That doesn't have the "track handling package". Stupid name, but the suspension is necessary for the xdrive (and probably the rwd). I'd say it's as different as a ZHP was from a non-sport 325i.


So the suspension on the track handling pack is the adaptive m suspension - same as the car I posted. The other differences are that track handling pkg came with Michelin pss tires on different wheels. Also had msport brakes and variable ratio steering (both of which could also be optioned on regular msport cars)
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:55 AM   #26
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So the suspension on the track handling pack is the adaptive m suspension - same as the car I posted. The other differences are that track handling pkg came with Michelin pss tires on different wheels. Also had msport brakes and variable ratio steering (both of which could also be optioned on regular msport cars)
It has the suspension but it doesn't have VSS (Variable Sport Steering) or the blue M brakes. It also has runflat 19's instead of 18's. The car I drove (with 18" MPSS in good ole e46 m3 sizes) had a better spec for me at 2/3rds the price, though it didn't have Nav and some other tech (digital cluster, carplay) etc. I guess I might miss those over time, but right now they don't seem to be a priority, I use Android anyway, and I see nothing wrong with classical non-blingy gauges.

I listed my Macan at an aggressive price. Let's see what kind of interest I get.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:04 AM   #27
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I guess I don’t understand why you wouldn’t simply ditch the 535i and keep the Macan.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:27 AM   #28
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I guess I don’t understand why you wouldn’t simply ditch the 535i and keep the Macan.
It sounds like he doesn't like driving it. He likes manual sport sedans. AFAIK, he's had 3 SUVs and sold them all within a year or so of getting them. It seems logical that the idea of a sporty SUV is much more appealing than the reality of one if you don't *need* the space.

I was going to recommend towards finding an updated 550 x-drive or similar, but I'm guessing no stick /no sale.
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Well and cost savings—the 3er he is talking about sounds like it’s about 10k cheaper than the Macan. Even after tax that’s a few grand in the pocket.

Plus I do think there’s something to owning one of the last manual AWD performance cars we’ll ever see.

There’ll be plenty of time to buy fast automatic SUVs. By 2022 that’s all there wlll be.
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I wish there were a 340 wagon variant, but otherwise, it seems like a solid choice. I love my car and the specs are very close to the 3.

I also thought my E91 wasn’t very luxe—either from a soundproofing standpoint or interior quality. That seems to continue.

The 2 is also pretty bare bones in that regard. Lots of hard plastics.
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