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Old 01-09-2018, 01:50 PM   #41
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As the kids have gotten older, I've found any rationale for getting an SUV (or even a big wagon) diminishing.* Equ's use case is quite specific, and I guess if I lived somewhere where it really snowed I'd change my tune. But I weep for the impending future when everything is a crossover.




*please ignore the momentary G class insanity I experienced a few months ago. I'm better now. I think.
Even with the two kids in college, we routinely (on average 2x per month) haul 3 kids and a dog places. We sorta need a large hauling vehicle. I am really bummed the 5 series wagon has gone the way of the Dodo (although with the lack of driving involvment on the F10 maybe it doesn't matter), as we'd really like a wagon i/o an SUV of any sort. Given the choice, I'd always take a wagon over same spec sedan, but unfortunately, that choice rarely exists.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:46 PM   #42
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I don't care about the time of year, I positively hate the NJ gas-pumping rules. Now that the only vehicle I'll be fueling in that God-forsaken state is a diesel, if I can pump it myself that will be a very welcome change.
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:50 PM   #43
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I thought about the e-class 4matic wagon. Our non sports cars get street parked so clearance would occasionally be an issue. I'm sure it drives better than any SUV, but these days my 535i is going strong which overlaps it. Also not sure how good 4matic is. Is it weak sauce like xdrive? And, I can't imagine it's an exciti g drive. if give an old clapped out 2006? e 4matic wagon and it was pretty terrible. Didn't check out a proper one this time around.

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Old 01-09-2018, 08:18 PM   #44
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Absolutely not.

This is the only time of year I’m glad for NJ’s gas pumping rules. Oregon just bailed on mandatory full-serve, so we’re the only ones left.
Oregon’s change is only in counties with less than 50k residents...
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:23 PM   #45
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I dunno man. I love my LR4 and it's coming up on 4.5 years. Air suspension makes it super smooth. The smooth thrust of the V8 is great. It has tons of room during trips, and with so much glass and headroom in the cabin, long trips are very comfy. It is unstoppable in winter, has a great view around banks and is very easy to maneuver. It's tall and boxy, but not long or wide. I love it. I feel so chill when I drive it. Plus, IMO, it projects utility, capability, and character with class as opposed to just a fancypants SUV. I can't see us selling this thing. It's great. And seriously, I cannot fit anything else in the garage with remotely the same amount of cargo/human room. It's a foot shorter than an Explorer.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:58 AM   #46
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Oregon’s change is only in counties with less than 50k residents...
Oh, wow, I missed that detail. That’s weird.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:04 PM   #47
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Oh, wow, I missed that detail. That’s weird.
Supposedly to aid in keeping rural (and isolated) gas stations in business - by lowering their costs.

I hate having to get gas while I am in Oregon. I am usually able to avoid having to have someone else pump my gas by going to commercial sites I have access to - those are true self serve. But still a pain as those sites are not as common as they used to be (at least near Portland).

I just don't like other people doing anything to my cars.
Yeah -I know it's silly... But I just don't like it.... Especially when I am driving either the Mustang or the old BMW's that have gas fill configurations that are not seen too much these days... Not to mention having the attendant not 'fill it up' when I ask him to.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:11 PM   #48
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why does it suck so bad having someone pump your gas, take too much time? Seems nice if you dont have tip
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:31 PM   #49
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I’m with Kevin on this one. Don’t want anyone touching my car.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:56 PM   #50
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I agree, they’re sloppier, more likely to let splashes and drips on the paint, and you have to wait for them. But I’ve gotten over it, especially when it’s like 2 degrees out.
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