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Old 06-10-2017, 06:41 PM   #61
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TD, in all seriousness, see if you can get this car for less than 30 and call it done.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-bmw-m5-7/

H/t to blee in the other thread.
Whoa. That's a cool car.

TD, just go drive a new 340i and see if you like it?
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Old 06-11-2017, 03:12 PM   #62
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Short version... BMW lease deals (or deals in general) aren't so hot which is a big change from what we've been used to for years.

Long version... It had already been mentioned here, but BMW lease programs are getting much worse. Or I should say, closer to reality in terms of residuals and BMW is backing off the incentives. Also eliminated MSD program and making other cuts to full maintenance, etc. I think it's a few factors - they are overexposed to leasing, indicators say new car sales have probably peaked in the US, volume of off lease cars is really high and all the incentives + drop in used car values are hurting bottom line. BMW is repositioning in US market and going w/ a profit vs. volume priority. However while BMW sales are dropping in the US as a result, global sales are up and setting new records- so they are hardly struggling, just focusing more on Asia where they can make better returns right now. They aren't interested in chasing the #1 crown in US at all cost anymore.
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:50 PM   #63
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The scoop on the 2 series LCI. Nothing earth shattering. Which would make a deal on a leftover 2017 M240 a real deal. Hard to find a stick, though, I'm sure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HT2RPPGNwc
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:06 PM   #64
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I thought a third pedal wasn't necessary for TD any more
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Old 06-12-2017, 02:05 PM   #65
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So how dumb would it be to just say "fuck it" and lease a new 340i for a few years?

When did I say that?

I put up with the slushie in a car I inherited and can't justify getting rid of. But that's it.
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Old 06-12-2017, 05:41 PM   #66
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I like the sunset orange color!
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Old 06-12-2017, 06:47 PM   #67
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I like the sunset orange color!
I read a comment from someone who saw it in person and said it was more brown/copper than the photos, which doesn't sound great to me. And I love orange.
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Old 06-12-2017, 06:48 PM   #68
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When did I say that?

I put up with the slushie in a car I inherited and can't justify getting rid of. But that's it.
Given that there are so many four seaters in the fleet, would a roadster work now?
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Old 06-12-2017, 06:58 PM   #69
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Short version... BMW lease deals (or deals in general) aren't so hot which is a big change from what we've been used to for years.

Long version... It had already been mentioned here, but BMW lease programs are getting much worse. Or I should say, closer to reality in terms of residuals and BMW is backing off the incentives. Also eliminated MSD program and making other cuts to full maintenance, etc. I think it's a few factors - they are overexposed to leasing, indicators say new car sales have probably peaked in the US, volume of off lease cars is really high and all the incentives + drop in used car values are hurting bottom line. BMW is repositioning in US market and going w/ a profit vs. volume priority. However while BMW sales are dropping in the US as a result, global sales are up and setting new records- so they are hardly struggling, just focusing more on Asia where they can make better returns right now. They aren't interested in chasing the #1 crown in US at all cost anymore.
3er prices just went up $1000+ for 2018 and $1500 for M3.
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3er prices just went up $1000+ for 2018 and $1500 for M3.
Porsche is going up $3k for the same car we just bought.
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