12-20-2017, 12:26 PM | #51 |
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Come on, be honest. Nobody uses Apple Maps.
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12-20-2017, 12:29 PM | #52 | |
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Anyone driven an F30 330?
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Yes over the air map updates are included. Forgot about proclip - yes I tried that as well. Had multiple issues with it falling off the vent . |
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12-20-2017, 12:32 PM | #53 | |
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The car I drove had CarPlay as well but I don't think I'd ever use it. Prefer the built in nav. App integration with pandora and Spotify works without CarPlay as well. |
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12-20-2017, 01:33 PM | #54 |
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Why not locate or even order a 2018? BTW, 2018 is last year of F15 production. It is quite easy to achieve 10 to 14 percent off MSRP via the right BMW Center. The savings on a leftover 2017 would have not been greater.
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12-20-2017, 02:09 PM | #55 | |||
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Siri has become really good for some things like "hey siri, unread messages" and having it speak incoming texts, let you dictate a response that it reads back to you and doing it all without looking at a screen. For everything else, no. We run tests in the car between Siri and OK Google. It's like Siri doesn't even show up. Quote:
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But with Proclip and such...why bother? I used to be an advocate for built-ins. Not any more.
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12-20-2017, 04:58 PM | #56 | |
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Yep- totally get the arguments behind using Carplay or simply mounting your phone. Having used Carplay now in several rental cars, as well as trying various in-car phone mounting options, I've had enough frustrations that I'd still prefer a good built-in unit. Can I deal w/ those frustrations? Sure. Would I prefer not to? Yes. They are tolerable but not good. If I had a special/classic car without modern electronics of course I'd use my phone. Or if I wanted to continue to drive nothing but older fully-depreciated cars, sure. But in a newer daily driver type car I'd rather not. To me, CarPlay/Android Auto are great in a low-end car or a rental car. Worst case, you'll have key functions projected on a larger in-vehicle screen in a consistent way that you're familiar with. Also great in vehicles with terrible infotainment systems. Some (most?) built-in systems are (or have been) truly awful. That's why I was so pleasantly surprised by the latest idrive. Does everything I expect quickly/easily. Overall better than using CarPlay. Should CarPlay become amazing over the next few years, it supports that as well. It does NOT support Android Auto, however. |
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12-20-2017, 05:46 PM | #57 | |
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I didn’t mean to argue at all. I’m not too fond of Apple Maps with CarPlay today. I just see promise in it. No experience with android auto. And, FWIW, I have never used any iteration of BMw’s IDrive.
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12-20-2017, 06:02 PM | #58 | |
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12-20-2017, 06:02 PM | #59 | |
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I'd expect that the latest/greatest will be considered "good" for maybe 2 years, "acceptable" for 2 years and then "outdated" after that. OTA updates will mitigate that somewhat. |
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