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Old 10-05-2006, 03:34 PM   #1
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Future wagon waffling continues - Why not a 540iAT?

The more I think about it, the more I'm liking the thought of a 540iAT to replace the Saabaru when the time comes. A set of narrow WS-50's might do the trick in the winters - even in Canada. Thoughts?

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I know I'm still 6-12 months away, but I've been thinking about possibilities for the family wagon... again. (Yes, I know I've had similar threads before).

You know the requirements by now:

-Automatic
-Roomy enough to fit a full-sized male lab and luggage in the way back
-A solid performance vehicle (power, torque, braking, handling). The more the merrier
-Must get through snowy weather fine (AWD preferable - required?)
-Must have high marks in comfort/luxury/amenities.
-I must trust it to not leave me stranded.
-Fuel economy/consumables are not a big deal due to low usage (under 10K miles a year).

The contenders are the usual suspects:

1) '06-'07 V70R - Price in '07: ~$30-40K.

-PROS: Newish, available long warranty, great brakes, good power/torque, good tranny, roomy, safe, AWD, decent handling, great interior/features.
-CONS: Low ground clearance/long front overhang, lag, only 2.5L, unreliable(?), FWD-biased AWD.

2) '05-'07 Outback 3.0R LL Bean - Price in '07: ~$25-30K.

-PROS: Newish, great AWD, "cheap," good ground clearance, reliable, decent power/torque, good range per tank.
-CONS: Not so upsacale, smallish, mediocre brakes and tranny, mediocre handling.

3) '02-'03 540iAT - Price in '07 ~$25-30K

-PROS: V8 torque, good power, good handling/brakes, great interior/features, good tranny, unliekly to strand me, roomy enough, RWD, "cheap."
-CONS: RWD-only, thirsty, not new (maintenance/repairs), just roomy enough.

4) '02-'03 E320W 4-Matic - Price in '07: ~$25K

PROS: Cheap, very roomy, AWD, Great interior features.
CONS: Unreliable(?), weak power/torque, maintenance/repairs.

-Late model E-wagons are too expensive and/or unreliable to consider.
-I should probably look ata used allroad V8 or A6 Avant just for kicks, but.
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:35 PM   #2
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I would never get it unless I could also afford a tranny swap.
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:36 PM   #3
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why not? because it will be old
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:45 PM   #4
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I would never get it unless I could also afford a tranny swap.
I know. But I more likely to sell my wife on the idea of a RWD, slushy wagon than an AWD-MT wagon.
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is it easy to take a dog from the US into Canada and back into the US again?
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:27 PM   #6
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No stick, old, expensive to maintain, thirsty on gas, not that big inside, not really that fast by contemporary standards. If you are going to get a slushie, why not a Magnum? Those come in AWD, too.

Frankly, if you are going to get a slushie, the thing that probably makes the most sense is a used Acura MDX. Those things (while disturbingly boring and something I would never buy) are almost perfect transportation appliances, and an '02 can be yours for less than $20K.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:46 PM   #7
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I know you have heard me say this over and over again, but the Magnum has very little useable cargo room for it's size. The cargo numbers are deceiving b/c the design team went out of their way to make sure as little of it was useable as possible.

Still a neat car though. And it has a Hemi.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:17 PM   #8
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I know you have heard me say this over and over again, but the Magnum has very little useable cargo room for it's size. The cargo numbers are deceiving b/c the design team went out of their way to make sure as little of it was useable as possible.

Still a neat car though. And it has a Hemi.
Not entirely true. It's kind of oddly shaped which does limit the shape of the cargo you can take, but if you don't need a big basic square (think 32" tube TV box), it will work most of the time. I can only think of one thing I've ever taken in the xiT that wouldn't have fit in the Magnum.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:59 PM   #9
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Not entirely true. It's kind of oddly shaped which does limit the shape of the cargo you can take, but if you don't need a big basic square (think 32" tube TV box), it will work most of the time. I can only think of one thing I've ever taken in the xiT that wouldn't have fit in the Magnum.

I can't expect my dog to not stand in the 5-hour trip to Montreal. The Magnum is to shallow in the back, and I cannot stack things very high.

lemming: Under 3 months, apparently all I need to do is show I own him an dthat he has had his basic shots. After 3 months, you need something from your vet. So for now, we're good.

The MDX-route, which opens a whole set of possibilities, is a more realistic scenario than a Magnum because: 1) My wife hates how it looks ("retarded" was how she described it, I beleive), 2) it is not "upscale," and 3) as I've mentioned before, it is not that roomy.

And if we go the SUV route, I would almost certainly go the whole way and get a used Land Cruiser.
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Old 10-05-2006, 07:01 PM   #10
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old, expensive to maintain, thirsty on gas, not that big inside, not really that fast by contemporary standards.
Yes, those are all bad. The thirsty part not for the $$$ (again, it wont be driven enough to make a huge difference), but for the relatively short range.

Ok, well, thanks for bringing me back to reality.
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