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Old 01-16-2018, 07:04 PM   #11
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Picked up my 2017 x3 35i on Saturday and got a chance to do a mix of highway and city driving with it. This was the one vehicle that my wife and I could agree on (the 330 sport wagon, JGC Hemi and Charger Hemi were higher on my list but she wasn't as much of a fan).

What really sealed it was the excellent deal we got on this car (cheaper lease than all but a base JGC Laredo). The biggest downside is that it lacks heated seats (which is probably why we were able to get such a good deal, but wtf was the dealer thinking when they ordered it like that and why does BMW even bother making it an option? Just raise the price by $500 and spare everyone the trouble of remembering the check the box). Even dumber when you consider that the majority of these cars are leased anyway and this would have only a few $ impact on payment. Doesn't have the m-sport package either, so it has the regular seats and thinner steering wheel (also not a big fan of). Upside is that it doesn't have the horrific front-end bumper they used on msport x3s. If I really wanted to, I could probably find an msport wheel for a few hundred and install it.

Coming from the standard seats in the e83 (which I found extremely comfortable), these aren't as good. I think the seat cushion is a bit shorter and the backrest is slightly harder. Plus the headrests can't be adjusted for tilt (weird since the F30's can). They aren't bad, but I haven't taken a long enough trip yet to really render a verdict. The back seat also isn't as good- feels like they made it lower so it's not as supportive. Rear legroom is better but not as roomy as I originally thought (F30 wagon seemed roomier).

Despite those downsides, it's just such a slick car. The n55 engine is smoother than it was in my old 335 and the ZF 8 speed seems to work better with it than it did with the 4 cyl on my f10. Throttle response is instant without any hesitation and there's none of the jerkiness when slowing down that i noticed on the f10. The suspension seems very well tuned-- glides over bumps but doesn't lean much in corners and doesn't feel floaty on the highway. The electric power steering is too light (even in sport mode), but it doesn't have the loose/dead spot on-center that I experienced in my f10. Very precise with a good ratio (not too quick/ not too slow). Overall, I'll adjust to it, but it's odd to me that FCA can make the steering on a Jeep feel more natural than BMW can with their current vehicles (FCA's standard steering wheel is also much nicer).

And, as I mentioned before, I really love the latest iteration of i-drive. Everything just works so well. Voice recognition is fast and flawless, they've done away with the annoying "Are you sure" type prompts, and all compatible phone apps automatically appear (even over bluetooth). Haven't managed to stump it yet. In the past, you had to manually start an app (such as Pandora), plug it in and then you could use it via i-drive. If you're not driving and want to do something else on your phone simultaneously it doesn't stop the app from working. Now you just get in, and it's there. Really nice, and less fussy than CarPlay. BMW seems to be the best at control placement and center-stack design. Everything is clean, easy to read, and feels high quality. Anything that should be a button is a button.

This is also the first car I've had with passive entry and a kick-to-open rear hatch (which apparently the msport f25 x3s lacked). Both seem to work perfectly and, with a toddler, make life a little easier. Having a super-clear backup camera and very detailed PDC graphics are nice too. Pano roof is larger than my old e83 (this was the first thing my 3 year old noticed and actually commented on). Anything that makes him happier to be in the car is a win so that's good.

The looks are starting to grow on me as well. Headlights definitely have an "angry birds" vibe to them, but overall it kind of works. My car is black metallic so that helps too. Turns signals are all regular bulbs which look a bit cheap/outdated. Weird that they bothered making the fog lights (which you rarely use) LEDs but not the turn signals.
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:05 PM   #12
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Ours was fine until the warranty ran out. Heh

The last ~18 months:
Suspension computer
Water pump/thermostat
(3) LED Tailights
(2) window regulators
Water leak from sunroof drains
gas door wouldn't "unlock"
glove compartment trim falling off
oil filter housing gasket leak

This is on a 2012 with under 50k miles.
Wife still happy with it? Planning to keep on keeping it a while?
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:42 PM   #13
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Wife still happy with it? Planning to keep on keeping it a while?
She still loves it.

I figure we're only left with the fuel pump and total VANOS failure still. Oh, and I guess the coils will all go bad eventually. In the mean time it'll go through several more rounds of rear brake pads (forgot to mention earlier the 14k mile replacement interval on those.)
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:43 PM   #14
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Congrats I had an X3 loaner and I REALLY liked it !! Great write up but what the heck ... no pics ???

Also your making me feel old with the whole 3 yr old talk my oldest is turning 20 and my youngest is 13 1/2 ... damn I知 getting old
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:58 PM   #15
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Congrats I had an X3 loaner and I REALLY liked it !! Great write up but what the heck ... no pics ???

Also your making me feel old with the whole 3 yr old talk my oldest is turning 20 and my youngest is 13 1/2 ... damn I知 getting old
Sorry- haven't had a chance yet (the whole 3 year old thing).

Don't feel too bad. I had a late start w/ kids. While you're enjoying retirement I'll be dealing w/ a teenager.

Did you have a 28 or 35 loaner?
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:10 PM   #16
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Ours was fine until the warranty ran out. Heh

The last ~18 months:
Suspension computer
Water pump/thermostat
(3) LED Tailights
(2) window regulators
Water leak from sunroof drains
gas door wouldn't "unlock"
glove compartment trim falling off
oil filter housing gasket leak

This is on a 2012 with under 50k miles.
Ugh- that sounds like "best of" album from BMW. All of the classics are there. Weird about the LED taillights- guessing that must've been a short from a leak. Thought that window regulator issues had been largely put to rest w/ the e46/39.

Mine is only a 2 year lease so I doubt I'll get to that point.
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:13 PM   #17
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She still loves it.

I figure we're only left with the fuel pump and total VANOS failure still. Oh, and I guess the coils will all go bad eventually. In the mean time it'll go through several more rounds of rear brake pads (forgot to mention earlier the 14k mile replacement interval on those.)
That's odd. Guessing it's from the "e LSD" doing its thing.

Have you had to have the engine walnut blastet yet? Supposedly thats necessary around 50-60k on BMW DI engines
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Congrats. That price is a steal for an x3 with the n55 engine. Enjoy.
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Ugh- that sounds like "best of" album from BMW. All of the classics are there. Weird about the LED taillights- guessing that must've been a short from a leak. Thought that window regulator issues had been largely put to rest w/ the e46/39.

Mine is only a 2 year lease so I doubt I'll get to that point.
The fact that it's every BMW issue, and that I know better, is what makes it hurt the most.

Apparently there's some defect in the circuit board for the lights. I found a diy to resolder some capacitors and whatnot, maybe I'll do that next time.

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That's odd. Guessing it's from the "e LSD" doing its thing.

Have you had to have the engine walnut blastet yet? Supposedly thats necessary around 50-60k on BMW DI engines
Haven't done the Walnut thing yet. Add that to next year's bill.
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:00 PM   #20
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Sorry- haven't had a chance yet (the whole 3 year old thing).

Don't feel too bad. I had a late start w/ kids. While you're enjoying retirement I'll be dealing w/ a teenager.

Did you have a 28 or 35 loaner?
I値l be there for you when you池e going through it (the teenager part and man is that fun )

I had the 2.8 and really thought it was a great car and could totally see living with it as my everyday car (I知 pretty sure I posted a pic of the car here) ... I would love to have driven the 3.5 because that must bring a great car to a whole new level !!

Enjoy and i知 looking forward to seeing some pics ... what color combo did you get ?
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