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06-02-2018, 11:08 AM | #1 |
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4-way stop question
Scenario:
You arrive at an intersection at the same time as a second car which is to your right. Quite clearly you cede the right of way to that car. But as that car starts to make a left turn (going to where you came from) two more cars (one in front of you and the other to your left) have now arrived at the stop sign and are stopped by the time the car turning has cleared your path. Who goes next? 1) You, because you where cleared fully stopped several seconds before any other car arrived at the intersection. 2) The car in front of you because it was to the right of the car making the turn and fully stopped by the time the car cleared the intersection. Of course at that point, it goes without saying that the car on the left will go next and then finally you. |
06-02-2018, 12:38 PM | #2 |
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You. It goes first person at the stop line, not in queue behind other cars. If two cars arrive identically yield to your right. Cars behind the first car at the line wait their turn
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06-02-2018, 03:21 PM | #3 |
The old cranky SOB....
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correct - you go next as you were waiting already at the line when the other cars arrived.
Granted - that is the way it is 'supposed' to happen. lol
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06-02-2018, 04:03 PM | #4 |
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I agree with both of you.
So why the F do I keep getting honked at by a-holes across from me?! People suck. They are clearly going by the "I'm to the right, so I go next" logic. |
06-03-2018, 05:26 AM | #5 | |
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The reason this is happening is because most people can’t drive ... no joking they really don’t know the rules of the road, they don’t understand cars, etc. Do you know how many times i’m in my car and watching other people and I’m like ‘what the heck is that person doing’ ... I start cracking up Btw I have to admit as I’m getting older I notice sometimes I fall in that catagory too |
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06-03-2018, 09:20 AM | #6 |
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It seems to be "survival of the fittest" here in South Carolina, and I am sick and tired of it. If you are driving a crappy car (and I am constantly amazed at the shit that is road legal here) you go when you want.
No one knows what to do when traffic lights are not operating, and stop signs are mere suggestions
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06-03-2018, 09:20 AM | #7 |
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Oh, and go ahead and honk at the assholes . . . .if you dare . . . they are usually armed
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06-03-2018, 11:17 AM | #8 |
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You still live in Assachusetts, right?
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06-03-2018, 02:28 PM | #9 |
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Yes.
It's really not that hard. As I come to a 4-way stop with many cars lined up in every direction, I just let one car from all other directions go and then I go. Last edited by FC; 06-04-2018 at 12:21 AM. |
06-06-2018, 03:51 AM | #10 |
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Where there are a lot of "Massholes".
You know, Patriot fans.
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