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Old 05-27-2020, 05:02 PM   #21
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Or get really brave with OLD car maintenance and do this!!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-bmw-x5-4-8is-2/

I always loved the body kit and the look of the old 4.8is. It’s just chunky and mean.

I've never been a big fan on the 1st gen X5, but this one looks nice!
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:08 PM   #22
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I'm not sure if there's enough data on the latest iteration of their turbo v8s, but given that they still have a "hot V" design, I'm going to guess there will still be long-term heat related issues that the inline sixes dont have.

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My 2016 550 had the updated design after they did the recalls and I didn’t have any issues over 3.5yrs, but was always skeptical of long term reliability. I don’t have that same concern with the 6 cyl.
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:15 PM   #23
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I've never been a big fan on the 1st gen X5, but this one looks nice!
Sweet! I still see some of those on the road here in ATL. Admittedly not in that color!

Biggest problem we've seen with the turbo V8 X5 is that it consumes tires. I've recommended that my ex dumps the Pirelli runflats that came on it and replaces them with decent non-runflats. She has the spare option.

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Old 05-27-2020, 06:03 PM   #24
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I haven't heard anything horrible about the turbo V8s....yet.
i haven't had a BMW V8 since the m5, so I don't have any valuable data points on them, but I've been very happy with the 4x n55 engines I've owned (and from everything I've read the B58 is better in just about every way).
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:07 PM   #25
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i haven't had a BMW V8 since the m5, so I don't have any valuable data points on them, but I've been very happy with the 4x n55 engines I've owned (and from everything I've read the B58 is better in just about every way).
The B58 is a great engine. TBD on its longterm reliability, though, too.
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Old 05-28-2020, 12:53 AM   #26
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My 2016 550 had the updated design after they did the recalls and I didn’t have any issues over 3.5yrs, but was always skeptical of long term reliability. I don’t have that same concern with the 6 cyl.

Hot V8 configuration is just asking for trouble.

Good lord what a stupid idea.
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Old 05-28-2020, 08:19 AM   #27
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The n52 was fine in an e90 330i, and even that car would be thought of as needing revs today. Sure in other lands with small engines, the n52 x5 will be more than fine. But in our great land with cheap torque, it will feel insufficient. I had an x5 with b58 loaner, it was quite fine; I didn't feel the v8 need.

I mean, how fast do you want to go around in an x5? It's not even fun, just competent. The x3 b58 might be a good choice if the size is sufficient and height a need... Don't know if it handles as tidily as a Macan, but if it's close than that engine would be a good match.

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Old 05-28-2020, 09:08 AM   #28
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Is it still true that Bavarian straight sixes are always more reliable than the V8s?
Well, in my cars - the M30's have been more reliable than the M60 & M62...
Oh wait.... Wrong generation...
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Old 05-28-2020, 10:59 AM   #29
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The n52 was fine in an e90 330i, and even that car would be thought of as needing revs today. Sure in other places with small engines, the n52 x5 will be more than fine. But in our great land with cheap torque, it will feel insufficient. I had an x5 with b58 loaner, it was quite fine; I didn't feel the v8 need.

I mean, how fast do you want to go around in an x5? It's not even fun, just competent. The x3 b58 might be a good choice if the size is sufficient and height a need... Don't know if it handles as tidily as a Macan, but if it's close than that engine would be a good match.
I have to drive a Macan. I've only driven a Cayenne. My ex recently had a Macan loaner (while getting the Boxster serviced) and did not like it at all--said it was very sluggish. Not sure what model it was. She couldn't wait to get back into her V8 X5.

The 2017 used Macan S is a pretty decent deal. This one is pretty loaded: https://www.porscheatlantaperimeter....ab2a54hlb17707

But probably coming up on that expensive PDK service...
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Old 05-28-2020, 12:22 PM   #30
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I don't think that service is a dealbreaker. The macan turbo (what I had) had the most torque. The base 4-cyl is pretty much a normal CUV with niceties.

The downfall of the macan (for me) is interior space. It's no bigger than a 3-series, and smaller for luggage (length) than any 3-series wagon or even our alltrack. It's very luxo and fancy inside. It achieves 3-series level of handling, I'll give it that (and perhaps better steering feel and decent chassis feel). That's impressive for something tall and heavy. But then you don't get anything back for the heavy; I guess you get tall if you wanted that. You still have the same space. And you're achieving 340i levels of drive with bigger tires, bigger brakes and more gas, consuming more in the process.
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