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Old 07-02-2020, 10:49 AM   #971
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It's worth noting that Kobi stopped tracking this car after she found herself cracking 160MPH down the back straight at VIR on street tires and started having bad thoughts about needing more downforce. The power is plenty. (See attached for the time this car visited the salt flats - note that that was when she ran out of courage, not power.)
That is fast!

I'm no speed demon, but I had done 120-138mph on the Autobahn on 3 cars before I took the F80 to over 160mph.

>130 is fast. You pass cars at nearly twice their speed, the trees go by very quickly, the wind gets pretty loud, etc. But 160+ is that much crazier. The closing speed to cars well ahead is close to 100mph, so that is sobering. I was hyper-focused on the road but your peripherals are just a blur, especially when the woods are not that far away from the road. How quickly the wind stops you is also amazing on its own.

180mph has got to be nuts.
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:04 AM   #972
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That is fast!

I'm no speed demon, but I had done 120-138mph on the Autobahn on 3 cars before I took the F80 to over 160mph.

>130 is fast. You pass cars at nearly twice their speed, the trees go by very quickly, the wind gets pretty loud, etc. But 160+ is that much crazier. The closing speed to cars well ahead is close to 100mph, so that is sobering. I was hyper-focused on the road but your peripherals are just a blur, especially when the woods are not that far away from the road. How quickly the wind stops you is also amazing on its own.

180mph has got to be nuts.


160 at VIR on the straight at VIR is daunting, yeah; it's not that straight. There's a little hump/kink that feels fine at 100 but that starts to require courage at 130 or so (which is the fastest I've ever gone there). 160 would definitely get me thinking about more downforce.



Back straight starts at 1:24 in this vid.
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Old 07-02-2020, 12:39 PM   #973
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160 at VIR on the straight at VIR is daunting, yeah; it's not that straight. There's a little hump/kink that feels fine at 100 but that starts to require courage at 130 or so (which is the fastest I've ever gone there). 160 would definitely get me thinking about more downforce.



Back straight starts at 1:24 in this vid.
If you’re driving a slow car at VIR, the braking zone off the back straight is fun. Up to 130ish, I skip the braking zone entirely, and turn in on the brakes

That scares the shit out of people on the DE line, as I’ll be closing on them at twice their speed.
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Old 07-02-2020, 01:02 PM   #974
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If you’re driving a slow car at VIR, the braking zone off the back straight is fun. Up to 130ish, I skip the braking zone entirely, and turn in on the brakes

That scares the shit out of people on the DE line, as I’ll be closing on them at twice their speed.
Ha ha. I never got that good...
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Old 07-02-2020, 01:33 PM   #975
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Ha ha. I never got that good...
The uphill esses in a car with power are incredible. You really need at least 350hp, maybe 400hp in a car to max out the speed there on a decent suspension with sticky tires. For context, a stock suspension E36 M3 can be driven up them at 110 (power limited).
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:38 PM   #976
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It pays to be provocative. Makes the thread more interesting.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:44 PM   #977
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The uphill esses in a car with power are incredible. You really need at least 350hp, maybe 400hp in a car to max out the speed there on a decent suspension with sticky tires. For context, a stock suspension E36 M3 can be driven up them at 110 (power limited).
Ha ha certainly never had the power nor the talent for that. Even at my limited experience, though, the climbing esses are amazing, especially leading into that blind left hander down the hill toward Oak Tree (PBUH). There is a lot of learning to trust in that section of the track.

For people that haven't driven VIR, that's 3:02 on the video above.
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Ha ha certainly never had the power nor the talent for that. Even at my limited experience, though, the climbing esses are amazing, especially leading into that blind left hander down the hill toward Oak Tree (PBUH). There is a lot of learning to trust in that section of the track.

For people that haven't driven VIR, that's 3:02 on the video above.
Looks fun. Maybe it's where the camera is (behind driver) but it's hard to see what is up ahead except for when an uphill is ahead.

And that car sounds awesome.
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Not knowing the track, the blind crest on the straight made me nervous, just watching the video. Seems like there could be a slowpoke right after it waiting to ruin both your days
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Just out of curiosity: are we taking the same track layout?


https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...lightning-lap/

I’m just trying to our peak speed in the context of other cars benchmarked there —

Uphill esses 154mph/straight at 172mph.
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