11-06-2013, 04:42 PM | #481 | |
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a) They would be automated -- so open 24 hours b) They would be co-located at Superchargers.
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I don't know that the Superchargers directly correlate with sales at this point, though Tesla is clearly building their network out in nodes that track places of heavy tech interest and thus likely sales prospects. Look at what we've got so far--West Coast, Texas, Florida, Boston-->DC, Colorado, Chicago, and now North Carolina. Transcontinental travel will theoretically be available by the end of the year, though Musk's announcement that he will delay his announced family trip until the Spring may call that into question. The Supercharger build-out is happening amazingly quickly, as such things go. |
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11-06-2013, 07:17 PM | #483 |
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11-06-2013, 11:45 PM | #484 | |
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My new (old) Merc gets 30 mpg on the highway. It has a huge tank so I can do my twice-weekly trips to NJ and run around town with it on weekends and still fill it up once every two weeks - and it takes me five minutes at the pump - which is about the limit of my patience for gas stations. I appreciate what you're saying, I just don't get what it is that's appealing about it - as it stands, I hate gas stations, what I want is a car that will go farther between stops and allow me to spend even less of my time worrying about when and where to gas up ... the Tesla would cause me endless additional anxiety. |
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11-06-2013, 11:56 PM | #485 | |
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That results in less anxiety than with having to get gas every week or two... I used to watch my remaining range in the Boxster and figure out how many more commutes I could do before needing to get gas. I also usually got gas at Costco on the way home from work -- and sometimes I'd forget that I needed gas, and then scramble to make sure I could pick up my daughter and get gas or risk not making it home. Haven't had to worry about that at all with the Tesla...
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11-07-2013, 08:06 AM | #487 |
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11-07-2013, 09:03 AM | #488 | |
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However, they have not released pricing on this. Rumors are that the 85kWh pack costs ~$40k. Lets say your pack shows 10% degradation and you swap in a brand new pack. If Tesla just does a differential calc -- that would mean a $4k charge from Tesla. Ain't gonna happen too often. Perhaps for someone with a 4 year old car (where pack degradation will likely be ~20% or so -- so $8k to "upgrade"). Now if battery costs come down in the next few years, those amounts could change. Tesla is predicting that a replacement pack will cost $10-12k in 7-8 years...
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Tesla's current idea that I have to come back and get my original pack is dumb. No derivative of that plan will work.
I'm not an accountant, but certainly someone can figure out the expected life/battery cost and amortize that into the price of the cars - then battery swaps are done for some fixed fee akin to filling up with gas and fresh packs are always available for everyone. |
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I received a firmware update from Tesla last night... Moved me from version 4.5 to 5.6. That's not a typo -- Tesla released a 5.0 update a couple months ago that was halted due to bugs (and I never received), they skipped 5.1 to 5.4, released 5.5 on the early Europe cars, now have moved to 5.6 to converge Europe and North America cars.
Includes some nice updates: - Maps now have a "car up" orientation option. Previous view was "north up" only. - Includes Sleep Mode. The car will now go to sleep after about 30 minutes while previously all the on-board computers would stay awake. I was seeing ~7 miles of range loss per day just when parked -- and that should now go down to ~1 (which is what most other EVs have). - Enables wi-fi -- so you can add the car to your home network. Doesn't allow the car to become a hotspot though (that's supposedly coming later). Speculation is that the free 3G coverage owners have had so far will become a paid subscription in the near future, so having wi-fi would allow options (such as using a Verizon or AT&T LTE hotspot to grant the car access)... - A bunch of smaller changes. Adds a "screen cleaning" mode that disables touch input to clean the screen. Adds a version of the owner's manual to the screen. Adds a "towing mode" that turns the car off, but disables the parking brake to allow it to be towed (and I'm guessing this will work well for a car wash also)...
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