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Old 01-28-2018, 07:30 AM   #71
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Weighs 5200 to maybe 5400lbs most likely.
Interesting. I was guessing a touch over 5000. I believe the diesel adds about 500 lbs over the 6 cylinder. And 300 over the hemi.

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If you are not demanding speedy moves, the engine feels more than comfortable for that weight.
What about turning? Does the outside front tire scream for the sweet release of death every time you round a mild corner?
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Old 01-28-2018, 07:50 AM   #72
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Interesting. I was guessing a touch over 5000. I believe the diesel adds about 500 lbs over the 6 cylinder. And 300 over the hemi.


What about turning? Does the outside front tire scream for the sweet release of death every time you round a mild corner?
I read some comparative reviews. Hemi seems to add 200lbs to the 6-cyl and the diesel seems to add 150ish to that. Note that hemi & diesel come with heavy duty brakes and towing package that is not as common on the 6. The hemi was decent and almost fun in a straight-line due to the soundtrack and response (if not the actual speed). It's likely quite reliable, but the archaic design and displacement mean that I'd be getting mid to low teens. And 200 to 250 on a tank.

The outside front? It probably would. There is either construction load or the dog in the car so I wouldn't know. It's not a car that encourages turning of that sort - at all. I have no intention on rolling it. I did just score a nearly new set of lighter Summit (higher trim) wheels that I put on, those are in the picture. The downside is that the tires are still the same, mediocre goodyear fortera's. So I will put together a winter set and take it easy in all 4 seasons.

I'm doing ok if I keep up with fast traffic. It does better on sweepers, once set up. And it powers out well, that audi/awd feeling. At least it's comfortable enough. But it's not meant to dominate the left lane let alone provide cornering delights. No large SUV I've driven can do that. The full-sized RR wouldn't be very different (smoother ride). The cayenne would be the only one and that is $$$ and I have a nice rwd 535i sedan anyway.
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:40 PM   #73
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Good running updates. Thank you.
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:37 AM   #74
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question for the group:

probably going to replace E61 with new Buick Regal TourX (I like it) --but the 2015 Wrangler Sahara is end of lease soon --but the buyout is super cheap. Vehicles on the market same year, same options same miles are all asking $30,000 or more --I should just buy this 2015 Jeep, shouldn't I?
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:38 AM   #75
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Somehow I didn't know you even had a Jeep...But, yes, I'd probably buy the Jeep and sell it, if you want something more luxe.
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:41 AM   #76
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probably going to replace E61 with new Buick Regal TourX (I like it) --but the 2015 Wrangler Sahara is end of lease soon --but the buyout is super cheap. Vehicles on the market same year, same options same miles are all asking $30,000 or more --I should just buy this 2015 Jeep, shouldn't I?
I mean, do you like it? Life is to short to keep a car you don't like just because it's cheap.

If the delta is big enough you might just buy and resell. I'm vaguely curious about owning a Jeep, but not curious enough to test drive a Jeep, so I can't really help.
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I mean, do you like it? Life is to short to keep a car you don't like just because it's cheap.

If the delta is big enough you might just buy and resell. I'm vaguely curious about owning a Jeep, but not curious enough to test drive a Jeep, so I can't really help.
i really like it.

it's a gigantic box on wheels. it's the closest thing you can get to a reliable Defender 90 kind of vehicle.

i'd test drive the 2018 to checkout the turbo 4 and the diesel options, but maybe i'll sit and hold.
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The Sahara is something I could see having at a second home as the country/beach/lake mobile.
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:51 AM   #79
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The Sahara is something I could see having at a second home as the country/beach/lake mobile.
the JK does not get driven much off-winter. Yes.

it's gotten to the point where I don't even mind it on the highway. it has a huge fuel tank.
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The Sahara is something I could see having at a second home as the country/beach/lake mobile.
There is an ever growing contingent of middle aged women in my neighborhood driving Jeeps as their primary vehicles.
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