Feels like I've been here before

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by Alan

When you mention the 4 door are you referring to the new 2 series 4 door ? I had a 228 4 door as a loaner a couple of weeks ago, they did an awesome job on that car ... it had every feature the more expensive cars have, it was fun to drive and I really like the looks, the only downside is it felt front drive bias.

I mean a four-door RWD M2. Alas, it does not exist.

[John V]

With who are you driving next year?

IMO... I would scratch the C6 off the list. Something tells me you would use the car more often if it had the option of putting people in the back. But you'll probably tell me I'm wrong. Also the C6 interior really feels pretty old these days.

The C7 is truly a great car, but it's a lot of money and I expect them to depreciate hard as the C8s start to appear on the used market. Also, two doors / two seats.

You do know Adam George is looking to offload his ZL1, right?

I never really thought much of the M2, especially since BMW seemed incapable of making reliable turbo engines. But then I heard one down in Virginia Beach with what sounded like a mild aftermarket exhaust, and I was a bit smitten. Still, does a turbo I6 scratch your V8 itch?

Knowing you, I feel like the right answer might be the Mustang or the Camaro. I might lean more towards the Mustang if you're confident it'll never need to be a tool for competition. I'd lean towards the Camaro if you think there's a chance you might want to autocross it.

The Supra is ugly and automatic-only. Delete.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by John V

With who are you driving next year?

Texted...as you know.

IMO... I would scratch the C6 off the list. Something tells me you would use the car more often if it had the option of putting people in the back. But you'll probably tell me I'm wrong. Also the C6 interior really feels pretty old these days.

The C7 is truly a great car, but it's a lot of money and I expect them to depreciate hard as the C8s start to appear on the used market. Also, two doors / two seats.

You do know Adam George is looking to offload his ZL1, right?

I never really thought much of the M2, especially since BMW seemed incapable of making reliable turbo engines. But then I heard one down in Virginia Beach with what sounded like a mild aftermarket exhaust, and I was a bit smitten. Still, does a turbo I6 scratch your V8 itch?

Knowing you, I feel like the right answer might be the Mustang or the Camaro. I might lean more towards the Mustang if you're confident it'll never need to be a tool for competition. I'd lean towards the Camaro if you think there's a chance you might want to autocross it.

The Supra is ugly and automatic-only. Delete.

The C6 and C7 things are things I think I needed to have someone say to me...other than the back seat part in terms of people. Between my wife's RAV4, the beater Accord, all the years daily driving the NA, and the two years of the Camaro, I just don't think I need a back seat to put people. Having a back seat to put stuff is another matter.

I don't really want a ZL1 1LE (which is what I think Adam has?). Just, too much.

I think I'd enjoy an M2/M2C, but I don't think I'd be happy enough with it for very long.

I'll probably wind up with a Camaro...I'm just too far into my own head now and have been too stuck at the same step for too long.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by clyde

Texted...as you know.



The C6 and C7 things are things I think I needed to have someone say to me...other than the back seat part in terms of people. Between my wife's RAV4, the beater Accord, all the years daily driving the NA, and the two years of the Camaro, I just don't think I need a back seat to put people. Having a back seat to put stuff is another matter.

I don't really want a ZL1 1LE (which is what I think Adam has?). Just, too much.

I think I'd enjoy an M2/M2C, but I don't think I'd be happy enough with it for very long.

I'll probably wind up with a Camaro...I'm just too far into my own head now and have been too stuck at the same step for too long.

Sounds like you have to get Camaro out of your system...

Edit: If you were channeling your inner JST, you’d have to get Mustang out of your system. If you were mixing JST, you, and me, you’d have to get a Mustang convertible or a Corvette Stingray convertible.

Edit Again: Whatever you get needs to be cool, fun, and powerful. I think this is why I keep perseverating on the practical car. Just can’t get excited enough about it to spend all that money to purchase and insure. May just wait for the next M3 sedan and slap a roof rack on it. Or say, F everything and just buy the M4 convertible with the soft top when it comes out.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by wdc330i

Edit: If you were channeling your inner JST, you’d have to get Mustang out of your system. If you were mixing JST, you, and me, you’d have to get a Mustang convertible or a Corvette Stingray convertible.

Edit Again: Whatever you get needs to be cool, fun, and powerful.

You just put a bunch of ideas in my head I now need to explore. Wow.

Thank you.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by clyde

You just put a bunch of ideas in my head I now need to explore. Wow.

Thank you.

[kognito]

Originally Posted by clyde

You just put a bunch of ideas in my head I now need to explore. Wow.

Thank you.

Rent a ford with newest sync for a week . . . . . this will clear your head of these ideas


you're welcome

[Nick M3]

Does the 2 series have a more usable back seat than the 1 series? Because the back seat in the 1 series was very close to the functionality of the 993 back seat. Technically usable, but not voluntarily.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

Does the 2 series have a more usable back seat than the 1 series? Because the back seat in the 1 series was very close to the functionality of the 993 back seat. Technically usable, but not voluntarily.

Yes. It's better. It doesn't curve in as much at the outboard sides as the 1 did.

[FC]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

Does the 2 series have a more usable back seat than the 1 series? Because the back seat in the 1 series was very close to the functionality of the 993 back seat. Technically usable, but not voluntarily.

A bit OT but one thing I recall about the back seats on the 997 was that the front seat shell is huge and offers poor visibility because of the fixed headrest. And on those with adaptive/sports seats, the shoulder wings make matters worse.

Couple that with the small windows, and being back there was not really all that much fun for my kids - who were starting to outgrow them, but could have still fit there for a few more years. By the time you can see out the side windows your legs don't really fit.