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Old 09-08-2018, 10:22 AM   #1
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Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3

Nokian has a new Hakka tire... The R3. Supposedly it's as good or better in snow than the R2, but much improved in the dry.
http://www.tractionnews.com/nokian-u...3-winter-tire/

I'm thinking about the R3 "SUV" version for the Chevy Colorado.

The only other winter tire available in 255/65-R17 are the Michelin X-ice xi2. The xi2 seem to do great in all the professional tire magazine reviews, but when you read user reviews a number of people say they are the worst tire they've ever driven in slush and wet snow. Apparently they hydroplane like crazy.

The biggest advantage of the xi2 over the R2 was the dry performance. With the R3 improving it's dry performance maybe the R3 wins across the board now.

I thought of not even bothering with winter tires. The stock all-terrain tires ("Goodyear wrangler all terrain adventure with kevlar") did great in deep wet snow, with the big gaps between the tread. But I'm guessing they'll suck on ice. I just hope the Hakka's aren't a big downgrade in the deep snow. It would suck to buy snow tires and have them be worse than what I have.
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Old 09-08-2018, 12:53 PM   #2
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If you are keeping the AT anyway, just go for the more serious winter tires.
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Old 09-08-2018, 12:54 PM   #3
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Meaning the hakka, right?
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Old 09-08-2018, 12:56 PM   #4
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I have had Hakka SUV tires on the LR4 (since Dec 3013) and they are spectacular.
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Hakkas are fantastic in snow, slush and ice. I have a set for the e46 wagon and rocked it in the blizzard of a couple of years ago. It was shockingly unstoppable.
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:03 PM   #6
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Just to add, I'm sure the LR4 system is impressive (with center and rear locking e-diffs), but in 5 years of Boston winters I can hardly recall the traction control coming on. Braking is also excellent (but you can't cheat physics either).
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:15 PM   #7
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I have had Hakka SUV tires on the LR4 (since Dec 3013) and they are spectacular.
I can imagine. A good 4WD system make even all-season tires seem stellar in the slippery stuff. Winter tires should be all that much better.
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Old 09-08-2018, 04:39 PM   #8
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I can imagine. A good 4WD system make even all-season tires seem stellar in the slippery stuff. Winter tires should be all that much better.
Surprisingly, the OEM Contis that came with the LR4 are junk in the winter. They are ok in terms of comfort and quiet but pretty much suck at everything else. This is my last season with them. Contó has come out with a very quiet and comfortable all terrain tire that I will install next spring.
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:26 AM   #9
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Are the Haaka's good for areas that get relatively little snowfall but have frequent ice storms, like where I am? I've have winter tires (Blizzaks) on the Mazdaspeed since new and it's time for a new set this winter. Are the Nokians overkill for what we get? I've never really had a complaint about the Blizzaks other than, well, they're winter tires, so on days with no snow or ice they suck to drive on (squishy and vague).

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Are the Haaka's good for areas that get relatively little snowfall but have frequent ice storms, like where I am? I've have winter tires (Blizzaks) on the Mazdaspeed since new and it's time for a new set this winter. Are the Nokians overkill for what we get? I've never really had a complaint about the Blizzaks other than, well, they're winter tires, so on days with no snow or ice they suck to drive on (squishy and vague).

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In the Focus ST, I had mixed feelings every spring when swapping the Dunlop WinterSport 4Ds back for the GY summer tires. The WinterSports were comfortably soft, quiet, and completely not nervous in comparison. But they were kinda squishy and limited in dry traction.

Trying to decide what to do for the Camaro. A lot of people on Camaro6.com say the GY A/S that come on it do fine enough in the type of winters we get here. But I don't like the tires to begin with, so why not put something made for cold/wet/snow/ice? Seems like TireRack is trying to blow out 2014 production WinterSport 4Ds in a size that will work, but Blizzaks. Hmm...
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