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03-05-2023, 06:48 PM | #1 |
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C&D just released their picks for hatches at various price points:
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...YM_xnju3V5nOWQ |
03-05-2023, 07:21 PM | #2 | |
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03-03-2023, 10:39 PM | #3 |
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The 6MT hatchback Civics are hard to find and the Sport Touring (which has the 180 hp turbo engine) is 32.5; at that point, you’re probably better off with an Si.
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03-06-2023, 09:53 AM | #4 |
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I'm confused. Your wife is the one commuting and the main user of the broken GTI (as the 4runner doesn't make sense for that); what does she want?
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03-06-2023, 12:03 PM | #5 | |
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03-06-2023, 01:05 PM | #6 |
Old Fart
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Test drive #1 - 2023 Integra A-spec Tech 6MT
Pros: -Power seemed decent, did not feel like a big drop from GTI. Did not rev it that hard though since want to be nice to a new car though. Seemed like a lot of fake engine noise which I could not figure out how to turn off. -Transmission was super nice, short distinct throws. A lot better than the GTI -tech/interior quality seemed fine. GTI again is very similar, front seat touch points high up are good. Rear seats have hard plastics up high. Cons: -Clutch had a high vague pickup, GTI wins on this -Rear entry was not ideal with fast back style. My short 5'3" wife commented on almost hitting her head getting in. -Read seats is kind of cocoon/tank like. -Rear view through hatchback was bad. -Rear bumper to load into hatchback is high and not ideal -We do take the GTI on some road trips but my wife thinks this car would not be any good for them based on above cons. Other notes: -Wife did not like the red interior. I was fine with it but the alcantara middle with leather side bolsters seemed a bit strange. I actually would prefer all leather leather like the rear seats -Transmission felt too far to the passenger side, seems like it would better to move the switches to the other side. Assuming I will get use to it -Did not realize it was auto rev matching when I first was driving it, thought the throttle was overly sensitive when heel toeing anyways, not a bad car but not a super exciting car for me. In some ways it would be a good replacement for the GTI in that wife could drive to work but still have a somewhat fun car for me. Value wise it seems like saving $10k for civic si would make more sense but I am a bit old for that. |
03-06-2023, 02:42 PM | #7 |
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Nice detailed review of the Integra. Surprised about the materials used on the front seat. I can see your wife's persective- the red alcantara kind of reminds me a little of the "plush velour" red interior of an 80s GM or Chrysler product. And yeah - disappointing that the liftover height of the rear hatch is so high. Its' more like a liftback than a hatchback
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03-06-2023, 02:52 PM | #8 |
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That was absolutely my thought when I looked closely at the interior pic
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03-06-2023, 02:33 PM | #9 |
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Good notes. Definitely seems a little hard to get excited about compared to a GTI.
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03-06-2023, 07:51 PM | #10 |
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I surrendered to the LA-ness of my life. And am getting a PDK equipped commuter car.
Good luck to you, @JeffDML, in finding something fun and suitable for you.
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