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06-25-2019, 08:55 AM | #1232 |
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That’s awesome that Tesla is getting props from proper gear heads like Chris. They are the new way of performance for sure. I’ll be a convert one day. I’m just not ready to give up the sound and my manual.
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06-25-2019, 10:31 AM | #1233 | |
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Likewise. Main thing that holds me back is Tesla being a bit of a hot mess as a company . |
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06-25-2019, 01:03 PM | #1234 |
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06-25-2019, 01:05 PM | #1235 |
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I'm a little worried about the hot mess part. I'm assuming it'll work out somehow and I won't get left with really expensive (and heavy) paperweight. But we'll have to see.
Regarding the interior - I actually kind of like it. |
06-25-2019, 01:43 PM | #1236 |
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I get the feeling the company will sort itself out. It would sure be great if they could figure out how to license their drive units and battery tech to other car makers so you could get the goodness of Tesla without the other stuff.
The interior really bugs me. It's ugly and poorly laid out. The other thing that bugs me is you have to pony up for the top model to get the version that is set up to be a driver's car. I'm holding out some hope that they'll make a cheaper model with the sporty suspension and the less-intrusive nannies. Even the exterior has kind of grown on me. It's still awkward looking but I don't cringe when I see them anymore. I still cringe when I see early Z4's |
06-25-2019, 01:52 PM | #1237 |
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I don't really understand the complaints about the interior. It's not gorgeous, but from a layout standpoint it's perfectly fine. The touchscreen has some drawbacks, but the sheer physical size and responsivness of it minimize those, and it comes with all of the advantages that touchscreens on phones have. The ability to reconfigure the UI to let you do a bunch of different things is incredibly useful.
Just re-learning how to use BMW's hot mess of a UI has been an eye-opener for me. The Tesla is easy and intuitive; the BMW is the opposite of that. There are some things that I wish Tesla did differently (e.g., a physical mirror switch, a physical glovebox release), but they're pretty small potatoes. |
06-25-2019, 02:01 PM | #1238 |
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I generally prefer physical buttons to the huge TV in the car. The Ram has a touch screen and redundant physical buttons for many features. I always find myself using the buttons. The Tesla UX is far superior to any of the other touch-screen based systems I've used, but it's still not what I'd prefer.
The lack of gauges in the driver's line of vision in the 3 is really dumb. IMO. The steering wheel looks and feels really cheap, IMO. I dunno. I guess you get used to this stuff over time. I'm still living in the mindset of an E46 interior layout and look, which IMO was pretty much perfection. |
06-25-2019, 02:09 PM | #1239 | |
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Yes, the lack of gauges in front of the driver is goofy, but you very quickly get used to it--and reading the speed in the Tesla is actually easier than in the BMW, with its goofy 200 mph speedometer and attendant small-as-hell increment marks. And really for the Tesla you don't need a lot of gauges. There's no tach, eg, or water temp or whatever. Battery SOC could be more prominent, but that's about it. Physical buttons are nice, especially in the winter. And the BMW has a nice row of physical buttons for the media/radio. But there aren't enough of them to store all the good stations, so then you have to dive into iDrive. And let me tell you, iDrive still sucks balls. It's way better than it used to be, but it's far harder to use to do simple tasks than the Tesla. One HUGE thing--entering nav addresses. In the Tesla, it's easy as hell. The BMW is...not. Fortunately, BMW has a nice linked application that lets you look up the address on your phone and send it to the car, which works pretty well. But just using the iDrive controller to enter an address guarantees you'll pretty much never use the nav. |
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06-25-2019, 02:14 PM | #1240 | |
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