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Old 03-03-2023, 04:54 PM   #1
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thanks all, I am going to try to test drive that 6MT Integra this weekend.

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Only problem is that it doesn't seem much of an upgrade over my GTI and for more money. Actually a downgrade on the engine 1.5T vs 2.0T. Seems like tech(and reliability) is the only upgrade.
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Old 03-03-2023, 06:45 PM   #2
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thanks all, I am going to try to test drive that 6MT Integra this weekend.

complaining start...
Only problem is that it doesn't seem much of an upgrade over my GTI and for more money. Actually a downgrade on the engine 1.5T vs 2.0T. Seems like tech(and reliability) is the only upgrade.
Yup. I think you're basically trading features and power for (hopefully) reliability and a bit more room. Plus a better feeling manual shifter from what i've read. As far as price, I guess the loaded integra is still cheaper than the Autobahn GTI - but I realize that's a moot point for you since you didn't want all those extra things anyway.
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Old 03-03-2023, 06:51 PM   #3
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Crosstreks are available with a stick, if you can find one. I think the newest models will be CVT only.

They are pretty low on power through, and the manual is not supposed to be so great…
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Old 03-03-2023, 09:14 PM   #4
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Crosstreks are available with a stick, if you can find one. I think the newest models will be CVT only.

They are pretty low on power through, and the manual is not supposed to be so great…
Nor is Subaru reliability...
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Old 03-03-2023, 09:19 PM   #5
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Yup. I think you're basically trading features and power for (hopefully) reliability and a bit more room. Plus a better feeling manual shifter from what i've read. As far as price, I guess the loaded integra is still cheaper than the Autobahn GTI - but I realize that's a moot point for you since you didn't want all those extra things anyway.
The Integra seems like it sits in a strange spot. They've stuck it exactly in a slot between the Civic and the Type-R.

Not really clear that the 20hp justifies the price premium over the 180hp 6MT Civic.

I assume that the CTR is impossible to get. Too bad there.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:25 PM   #6
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thanks all, I am going to try to test drive that 6MT Integra this weekend.

complaining start...
Only problem is that it doesn't seem much of an upgrade over my GTI and for more money. Actually a downgrade on the engine 1.5T vs 2.0T. Seems like tech(and reliability) is the only upgrade.

Sometimes things just suck, in a perfect world the gti is the answer for you but in real life you did it and done that and unfortunately the gti is out of the question.

Forgot everything else and try out the new Nissan Z …. Now that looks like fun

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Old 03-05-2023, 06:48 PM   #7
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C&D just released their picks for hatches at various price points:

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...YM_xnju3V5nOWQ
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Old 03-05-2023, 07:21 PM   #8
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C&D just released their picks for hatches at various price points:

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...YM_xnju3V5nOWQ
LOL.

Most of those cars are unobtainium
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