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Old 09-29-2021, 03:37 PM   #11
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I agree with both of you on the auto only, and that's why I ultimately decided not to start test driving them (previous gen RS3 that is). Also the lack of a hatch / wagon version in the US is dumb. That's a much more appealing car.
Yeah... I think specializing in hatchbacks/wagons would be smart move for Audi's RS line in the US. They've already started to do it w/ the S6, RS7, RS5, etc...so why not continue that strategy with the RS3. Plus sedans in general are a hard sell these days (especially a compact on like that). I dont' get it.
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Old 09-29-2021, 03:37 PM   #12
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But yeah I would get the R way over the Q4. I am hoping the 8.5 fixes the interior but sounds like you do not have time to wait.
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Old 09-29-2021, 04:26 PM   #13
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The mini E has pretty crappy range (115miles), but is $36k for everything you want.

I went to look at the iX3, thinking it was much more x3 and much less i, but saw the pics, threw up a little in my mouth and agreed with your q4 direction


Yeah I like the mini E as well but I donít think it will cut it as a practical family car especially if the 2nd car ends up being a 911 or boxster

I donít think they are even offering the ix3 in the US (strangely)


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Old 09-29-2021, 05:01 PM   #14
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Don't really have that much to add, except that: (a) I've driven the Q3 and Q5 and find them boring as hell and (b) no 4 cylinders is really limiting here.

Volvo wagon would be worth considering, especially lightly used. But 4 cyl like so may other options.
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Old 09-29-2021, 05:09 PM   #15
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Yeah I like the mini E as well but I donít think it will cut it as a practical family car especially if the 2nd car ends up being a 911 or boxster

I donít think they are even offering the ix3 in the US (strangely)


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If you are ok w/ pre-owned, a 2019 X3 M4.0 would be your best bet. Prices are overinflated on those too at the moment, but you can fit a decent one without crazy miles easily under your budget.
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Old 09-29-2021, 05:27 PM   #16
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If you are ok w/ pre-owned, a 2019 X3 M4.0 would be your best bet. Prices are overinflated on those too at the moment, but you can fit a decent one without crazy miles easily under your budget.
Possibly. Whenever I've run the numbers on buying a slightly used BMW, it always seems like leasing a new one ends up being cheaper in terms of TCO...unless you buy and keep the used one for 7+ years. I wouldn't want to own one without a warranty though.
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Old 09-29-2021, 05:28 PM   #17
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Don't really have that much to add, except that: (a) I've driven the Q3 and Q5 and find them boring as hell and (b) no 4 cylinders is really limiting here.

Volvo wagon would be worth considering, especially lightly used. But 4 cyl like so may other options.
Yeah I do like the looks of the Volvo V60 wagon. But I've driven the XC60 and that engine is just so.....meh. Makes the Q5 feel fun in comparison. One advantage to EV Audis (vs regular Audis) is that they dont have all the weight hanging off the nose....my bet is that the Q4 etron will actually drive better than any of those 4 cylinder cars. If do relax the 4 cylinder rule it'll most likely be to get a Golf R
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Old 09-29-2021, 05:35 PM   #18
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Yeah I do like the looks of the Volvo V60 wagon. But I've driven the XC60 and that engine is just so.....meh. Makes the Q5 feel fun in comparison. One advantage to EV Audis (vs regular Audis) is that they dont have all the weight hanging off the nose....my bet is that the Q4 etron will actually drive better than any of those 4 cylinder cars. If do relax the 4 cylinder rule it'll most likely be to get a Golf R
What about the ID4?
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Old 09-29-2021, 05:41 PM   #19
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What about the ID4?
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What about the ID4?
I thougth the Q4 was the ID4
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