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Old 09-19-2021, 01:05 PM   #21
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There were already some very smart people working at Tesla when musk joined. And I believe the “white star” project was already underway. So I’m not sure how much he actually had to do with some of the novel ideas that were introduced in the model s. I do think he gets credit for willing to push the limits when it comes to hardware and bragging about what the hardware can do.


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Tesla was founded in July 2003. Musk became the majority shareholder in Feb 2004 -- during their Series A funding round. While he didn't become CEO until 2008 after Tesla nearly failed during the financial crisis, he has had influence with them since shortly after the founding. White Star was publicly announced in June 2008 -- and was basically the first example of Musk promoting future product to help save the company...
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Old 09-20-2021, 10:18 AM   #22
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Amazon-backed electric-vehicle maker Rivian files to go public: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/27/rivi...s-for-ipo.html

Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80 Billion Valuation: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...lion-valuation
A close friend of mine left Tesla for Rivian a couple of years go. He's having a good week.
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:44 AM   #23
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The press embargo expired on the Rivian R1T yesterday, Sept 28th. Tons of review articles and YouTube videos are out.


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A close friend of mine left Tesla for Rivian a couple of years go. He's having a good week.
Very nice…. Guessing he/she is one of the many that Elon is suing Rivian over.
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Old 09-29-2021, 12:14 PM   #24
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Now that Rivian has actually started series producing cars (and now that Lucid looks to be closer on that front, as well), I thought it would be good to start a thread on these new options, which seem to offer much of the Tesla tech without some of the...baggage associated with Elon Musk and his fanboi crowd.

I don't need a pickup, but the R1S is nice looking and honestly seems well-priced for a full size 3 row SUV (my spec is 77K before incentives). I'm not sure I need one of those, either, but it's kind of tempting, tbh.

The Lucid Air is really nice in person, too, though I find it a little puzzling that in 2021 the company chose "sedan" as the sole model to launch; it's not even a hatch like the Model S. The 500+ mile range versions are mid-100K, but there is a 400 mile version that starts at 77K, also.

Anyone else eying these?
Yes. I see the trucks out and about in LA and it’s cool to see them do whatever the heck they’re doing. Shakedown runs?
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Old 09-29-2021, 01:29 PM   #25
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The press embargo expired on the Rivian R1T yesterday, Sept 28th. Tons of review articles and YouTube videos are out.




Very nice…. Guessing he/she is one of the many that Elon is suing Rivian over.
yeah tempted to put down a 1k deposit for the R1S to replace the 4runner. A bit worried about the size though, almost seems suburban sized.
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yeah tempted to put down a 1k deposit for the R1S to replace the 4runner. A bit worried about the size though, almost seems suburban sized.
Is there something significantly different in their battery tech or driveline? Just curious how they differentiate.
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Old 09-29-2021, 01:41 PM   #27
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Is there something significantly different in their battery tech or driveline? Just curious how they differentiate.
Has a motor per wheel which helps it offroad and tested extensively offroad. Ran into their test mules out in Anza Borrego awhile back.. Also not run by musk
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Old 09-29-2021, 02:31 PM   #28
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yeah tempted to put down a 1k deposit for the R1S to replace the 4runner. A bit worried about the size though, almost seems suburban sized.

I do not believe it is any larger than the R1T since it is built off of it. The R1T is in-between a Tacoma and a F150.


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RJ Scaringe, the founder and CEO of Rivian is a much more likable guy. He also appears to genuinely care about people as well as the environment. Smart guy too, MIT grad with a doctorate from there as well.
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I do not believe it is any larger than the R1T since it is built off of it. The R1T is in-between a Tacoma and a F150.




RJ Scaringe, the founder and CEO of Rivian is a much more likable guy. He also appears to genuinely care about people as well as the environment. Smart guy too, MIT grad with a doctorate from there as well.
yeah I guess suburban comparision was a bit much, X7 still seems big to me. I was looking at this



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