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11-11-2021, 04:03 PM | #72 |
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It’s bizarro world in the auto industry, again: https://apple.news/A8Wk0HWyKRaKhD3zdmAcq4g
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11-15-2021, 08:44 AM | #73 | |
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11-15-2021, 08:47 AM | #74 |
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11-15-2021, 09:21 AM | #75 |
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I like the Rivian quite a bit. Tempted to reserve one.
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11-15-2021, 09:34 AM | #76 | |
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11-15-2021, 09:46 AM | #77 |
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Do it! I reserved Oct 2020.
Edit: My specs below. I would like to get the Rivian Blue, but I am not dropping $2500 for paint on a truck. Last edited by SCA; 11-15-2021 at 11:10 AM. |
11-27-2021, 10:59 AM | #78 | |
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They're seeing per mile costs averaging $0.25/mile with Electrify America (although yesterday was free) and $0.30/mile with Chargepoint. They've had some bad luck with slow chargers and seem to generally be seeing about 1.2 minutes/mile of charge time overall, but it's highlight dependent on charging speed, which seems highly variable. At some locations, the first charger they've plugged into has been super slow, tried another and found it to be much faster. Sometimes, they're all slow. If they have the ability to get to a charger without unhitching, they do...even if it blocks all the other chargers at that location. In other places, the geometry or bollards won't let them get to the charger with the trailer hooked up, so they have to leave it somewhere nearby. For towing, the $0.27/mi cost is kind of competitive with diesel depending on your diesel alternative's efficiency and how long of a term you use for comparison. Average diesel price in the US today is $3.41/gallon. At 15 MPG, that's $0.23/gallon, but (if new enough) you also have to add DEF occasionally, do oil changes, probably add a tune, an exhaust at some point, etc. At those prices, a single trip of considerable length will be noticeably more expensive, but not enough to hurt, but I'd guess total running costs over 100k towing miles (10-15 years of significant use?) would be similar enough to wash out. The parts that really hurt are that they're spending nearly as much time charging as they're spending moving and that they have to charge so often (although they're being cagey about sharing range details). I think a lot of thoughts I and others have had about the electric F150 apply here: Towing with an electric doesn't make sense...yet. If you want or need a truck for anything else...it's viable in today's world. Staying tuned...
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For how most people use most trucks, it should be fine as it is. And it looks really nice inside.
It just doesnt look like a great option for towing more than 150 miles if time efficiency matters to you. The big unknown $ factor is what depreciation will look like. I'd expect these early trucks to be heavily penalized on resale once trucks are available with realistic towing ranges. Until then, though...?
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