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Old 12-16-2019, 03:04 PM   #1
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This is weird, but might be worth a look

and boy, do they drop like a stone in value. But the depreciation makes it a very interesting alternative to an X3 or the like. Super loooong body, though:

https://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/201...8069?zip=30033

2018 BMW 640i xDrive Gran Turismo
Not a crossover. Not a wagon. Better than either.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...o-test-review/
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Old 12-16-2019, 03:14 PM   #2
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If they are like the 5GT I had for a loaner a long time ago, the issue is that they only seat four, and the trunk is surprisingly tiny.
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Old 12-16-2019, 03:27 PM   #3
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The 3gt we had for lease wouldn't work as an SUV. The 3gt was 3 across the backseat (unlike Nicks reference to the original 5gt), but the sloping gate made it a no go for our dog in the trunk area. I don't think the 5/6gt would be any better in that regard.

That car made it so painfully obvious that BMW shit the bed not making that f30 long wheelbase platform w/ the N55 the baseline for the 3 wagon. It rode well, the extra leg room in the back seat made 2 adults back there quite comfortable, the drivetrain w/ the 6 cylinder was nice, but the back end was completely worthless. Worst of both worlds, none of the space of a wagon, none of the security of a real trunk.

I know I posted a pic on here of Mabel in the back for reference to how poorly she fit.

edit: to Nick's point, the middle of the rear seat still has a big hump on the listing you posted.:
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Old 12-16-2019, 03:32 PM   #4
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This quote from Car & Driver made it sound promising. But I'd have to eyeball it for the dogs:

"But it’s taller than that brawny sedan and features a liftgate that opens to reveal a generous 31 cubic feet of cargo space behind the second-row seats. The Charger’s trunk, by contrast, has room for only 17 cubic feet of flotsam. Volvo’s V90 station wagon has 26 cubes behind its second row, and the XC60 crossover offers only 30.

But even those numbers understate the 640i GT’s usefulness. The rear hatch opening is huge and extends down to the bumper, and the aluminum liftgate opens without struts impeding access from the sides. The space back there isn’t just generous but also flat, so things slide in easily. And it’s deep enough that many bulkier items fit in without having to remove the cargo cover. Plus, the rear seats fold down to increase total cargo capacity to a vast 65 cubic feet. The 640i GT isn’t a station wagon and it isn’t a crossover, but it may be smarter than either of those things."
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The 3gt we had for lease wouldn't work as an SUV. The 3gt was 3 across the backseat (unlike Nicks reference to the original 5gt), but the sloping gate made it a no go for our dog in the trunk area. I don't think the 5/6gt would be any better in that regard.

That car made it so painfully obvious that BMW shit the bed not making that f30 long wheelbase platform w/ the N55 the baseline for the 3 wagon. It rode well, the extra leg room in the back seat made 2 adults back there quite comfortable, the drivetrain w/ the 6 cylinder was nice, but the back end was completely worthless. Worst of both worlds, none of the space of a wagon, none of the security of a real trunk.

I know I posted a pic on here of Mabel in the back for reference to how poorly she fit.

edit: to Nick's point, the middle of the rear seat still has a big hump on the listing you posted.:
Ah. Right. That would be a problem. I need to be able to schelp my son's posse around...
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If you have the room to park it, there is something really nice about having a cheap beater. Keep the 2er and find a 2013 x5 n55 w the 3rd row option. A really good one would be under 15k and give you the freedom to do all the dirty work without caring about scuffing up your daily driver.

Plus it will give your son something to use in 2 yrs when he gets his license
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If you have the room to park it, there is something really nice about having a cheap beater. Keep the 2er and find a 2013 x5 n55 w the 3rd row option. A really good one would be under 15k and give you the freedom to do all the dirty work without caring about scuffing up your daily driver.

Plus it will give your son something to use in 2 yrs when he gets his license
True indeed. (And, eek about the prospect of my son driving.)

I do worry about big car maintenance bills. But would have to reconcile that with the much lower price of entry to buy. These luxury cars really do decline precipitously in price as they get older.

I really am not ready to let the 2er go. It delights me every time I drive it.
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True indeed. (And, eek about the prospect of my son driving.)

I do worry about big car maintenance bills. But would have to reconcile that with the much lower price of entry to buy. These luxury cars really do decline precipitously in price as they get older.

I really am not ready to let the 2er go. It delights me every time I drive it.
Our x5 (i hope I didn't just jinx myself) has been great. We just turned 126k miles. Just be careful of the spec you look for, stay away from air suspension, adaptive / adjustable handling stuff, the larger wheel packages and some of the other accessories that add maintenance bills.

That's the other nice thing about having a 'beater' 2nd car. Its normally not the end of the world if something isn't working just right and its nice to have a back up if something happens to your 2er.
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Our x5 (i hope I didn't just jinx myself) has been great. We just turned 126k miles. Just be careful of the spec you look for, stay away from air suspension, adaptive / adjustable handling stuff, the larger wheel packages and some of the other accessories that add maintenance bills.

That's the other nice thing about having a 'beater' 2nd car. Its normally not the end of the world if something isn't working just right and its nice to have a back up if something happens to your 2er.
Good points!
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What a super awful customer unfriendly website trying to force you to give them a zip code before allowing engagement with the content.

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