12-12-2017, 03:03 PM | #11 | |
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12-12-2017, 03:11 PM | #12 |
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Certainly not. One of the main reasons I never had much interest in the Audi S4s with the DOHC V8 was the insanely high maintenance costs.
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12-12-2017, 03:50 PM | #13 |
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12-12-2017, 08:42 PM | #14 |
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I had one as a loaner when I brought my sons 340i in for service ... great car, great engine though the steering was a little weird, I’ve noticed it on the 328 as well when turning the wheel it wraps itself right back to center very quickly and feels strange.
I drove my sons 340 after and it doesn’t do this, also drove my friends 435 convertible and it doesn’t do it either. No idea if they say the steering is the same on all 3 series but it isn’t. |
12-12-2017, 10:10 PM | #15 | |
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I found the 240i better, and the M2 best. Well, the Cayman was best. But the M2 was as good as it got for a modern BMW. |
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12-13-2017, 03:57 AM | #16 | |
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Btw I just realized the last loaner was a 430 not a 330 but still it had that weird tugging on the wheel thing. |
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12-13-2017, 08:28 AM | #17 |
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I left baffled how they could screw it up so badly. I know there are things that sell cars even though enthusiastic don't like them - light steering, high seating position, etc. But does anyone on the planet actually like what BMW is doing with the steering or is BMW just completely incompetent at this point?
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12-13-2017, 09:01 AM | #18 | |
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BMW wants to sell more cars. Lighter steering probably helps them do that. |
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12-13-2017, 10:53 AM | #19 |
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My theory is BMW sees Lexus selling a ton of cars and thinks, hey, let's make beige, boring, inoffensive vehicles like Lexus. We'll make a fortune not having to care about things like steering feel and throttle response and lateral grip.
The problem is people don't buy lexuses because they're hiring. They buy then because they're reliable. Bmws aren't. |
12-13-2017, 11:08 AM | #20 | |
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No no no no no. It's not just lighter steering. It's light-but-jerky steering. It's seriously messed up. I'm sure that many people just don't notice it or don't give a shit. But I can't imagine anyone actually *likes* it. |
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