Time for a slow 981 search

[Nick M3]

Originally Posted by FC

I read that the Euro setting for MDM or whatever it is called in the F8X is also quite good.

I can't imagine why it wouldn't be!

The E9x was the crossover point. The E46 would never let you do anything fun. The E9x will.

[equ]

Originally Posted by John V

I was thinking back to brakes. I drove a friend's 997 GT3 a couple years ago when I had just purchased my 987. I didn't notice anything different between the two in terms of braking. Porsche is fairly well-known for iterating things like brake pads throughout production runs, and pads have a huge impact on brake feel.

I directly traded in my five-year main vehicle 987.1 on a 997.2 in 2011. I traded that 997 for a 987.2 in 2012, again directly. Drive one in; drive the other out. Not to mention, multiple test drives of both platforms (cayman R, 997.2S, etc) around that time. The pedal action of the 987 and 997 are noticeably different. Period.

Whether it matters or one cares about it is subjective. That the pedal acts differently is not. I can't be sure whether it was pads, fluid, lines or master cylinder, though I remember reading that it was the cylinder. Regardless, that's hypothetical. How the brakes felt was very real. Is it a criterion to buy / not buy? Not for me, but since we are going back and forth over this petty point, I don't see why I should concede.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by equ

I directly traded in my five-year main vehicle 987.1 on a 997.2 in 2011. I traded that 997 for a 987.2 in 2012, again directly. Drive one in; drive the other out. Not to mention, multiple test drives of both platforms (cayman R, 997.2S, etc) around that time. The pedal action of the 987 and 997 are noticeably different. Period.

Whether it matters or one cares about it is subjective. That the pedal acts differently is not. I can't be sure whether it was pads, fluid, lines or master cylinder, though I remember reading that it was the cylinder. Regardless, that's hypothetical. How the brakes felt was very real. Is it a criterion to buy / not buy? Not for me, but since we are going back and forth over this petty point, I don't see why I should concede.

I think the question people were trying to figure out was if the brake feel difference was model specific, or sample specific.

[Jeff_DML]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

I can't imagine why it wouldn't be!

The E9x was the crossover point. The E46 would never let you do anything fun. The E9x will.

I spun my E90 M3 on the track the first time I disabled DSC yeah I lifted

[Nick M3]

Originally Posted by equ

I directly traded in my five-year main vehicle 987.1 on a 997.2 in 2011. I traded that 997 for a 987.2 in 2012, again directly. Drive one in; drive the other out. Not to mention, multiple test drives of both platforms (cayman R, 997.2S, etc) around that time. The pedal action of the 987 and 997 are noticeably different. Period.

Whether it matters or one cares about it is subjective. That the pedal acts differently is not. I can't be sure whether it was pads, fluid, lines or master cylinder, though I remember reading that it was the cylinder. Regardless, that's hypothetical. How the brakes felt was very real. Is it a criterion to buy / not buy? Not for me, but since we are going back and forth over this petty point, I don't see why I should concede.

There's huge difference between updated consumables and altered brake hardware, though. I believe that your two cars felt different, but there are a lot of factors that go into that.

[kognito]

Originally Posted by FC

Hi mileage 981S in Arlington, VA.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

PADM fault, that sounds expensive. And looking at the carfax, the local dealer didn't take too long to wholesale it

[equ]

Originally Posted by Nick M3

There's huge difference between updated consumables and altered brake hardware, though. I believe that your two cars felt different, but there are a lot of factors that go into that.

My two 987s' brakes did not feel majorly different from each other. All 997's I've driven (including a few .1's I drove in 2009 and the 997.2 that I owned 2011-12) felt quite different from those.

See also:

https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-...our-987-a.html

[John V]

Originally Posted by clyde

I think the question people were trying to figure out was if the brake feel difference was model specific, or sample specific.

Ding ding

[Josh (PA)]

Originally Posted by wdc330i

I realize no one is interested in the 718--especially non S. But this is a very cool color:

https://www.porscheofchattanooga.com...b322a6e63f.htm

That is a nice color. The wheels look good on it too. Very sharp.

[John V]

Great color but a four cylinder base car for 52 large? Ahhhh... No?