Time for a slow 981 search - Page 24

Josh (PA) · 10-22-2020, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by John V

Great color but a four cylinder base car for 52 large? Ahhhh... No?

Has anyone besides WDC driven a 718 with the 4cyl? I'm curious how it is in reality vs the ease of dismissing it because its a 'subie' engine? To me the 981s really needed more low end torque. I bet the 4 cyl fixed that issue (while potentially creating other ones).

Alan · 10-22-2020, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh (PA)

Has anyone besides WDC driven a 718 with the 4cyl? I'm curious how it is in reality vs the ease of dismissing it because its a 'subie' engine? To me the 981s really needed more low end torque. I bet the 4 cyl fixed that issue (while potentially creating other ones).

I have a 2019 Base Cayman, the power is very good, it moves really well down low, I know the feeling your describing about low end torque and it solves that issue ... if I were to floor it off the line once 1st gear engages (it's a PDK) the rear wheels will actually spin.

I never find it needing for power and it is a really fun car to drive, I would never have thought of getting a Cayman or Boxster but last year I got one as a loaner car and loved it.

As far as the sound, it is pretty beefy especially for a 4 cylinder engine.

EDIT: I should clarify the reason I never considered the Cayman/Boxster is because I had a 2003 Boxster back in the day and the car was a little too small for me to be comfortable in, obviously the car is now bigger and I find it comfortable.

John V · 10-22-2020, 05:52 PM

I have driven one. The engine is fairly powerful, but the sound is just not good, and it feels gravelly. It to me ruins a lot of what makes the boxster great.

wdc330i · 10-24-2020, 10:52 AM

I’m wondering how many 4-cylinder 718s we’ll see on the used market, once the six cylinders start being widely available. But maybe I’ve already pondered that here.

I suspect they will put downward pressure on the 4 cylinder used prices...

FC · 10-24-2020, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wdc330i

I’m wondering how many 4-cylinder 718s we’ll see on the used market, once the six cylinders start being widely available. But maybe I’ve already pondered that here.

I suspect they will put downward pressure on the 4 cylinder used prices...

I imagine it will come down to just how many are sold. I can see GTS's cannibalizing highly optioned Boxsters for sure. After all, there are few who do not buy the Boxster as a toy, and if you can blow $80k on a toy, you can probably get what you really want for under $100k. But the leased, lower priced base Boxsters will probably not be impacted.

If Porsche kills the MT or goes hybrid for the next gen this won't matter to me, but I wonder if the GTS 4.0 sales convinces them to offer a detuned 911 (FI H6) engine for the Boxster S in the next gen. Wouldn't be a NA H6, but better than 4-cyl.

wdc330i · 10-24-2020, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FC

I imagine it will come down to just how many are sold. I can see GT4's cannibalizing highly optioned Boxsters for sure. After all, there are few who do not buy the Boxster as a toy, and if you can blow $80k on a toy, you can probably get what you really want for under $100k. But the leased, lower priced base Boxsters will probably not be impacted.

If Porsche kills the MT or goes hybrid for the next gen this won't matter to me, but I wonder if the GTS 4.0 sales convinces them to offer a detuned 911 (FI H6) engine for the Boxster S in the next gen. Wouldn't be a NA H6, but better than 4-cyl.

If you can live with the base 4 cylinder engine, the T is just arriving here now. Nice bundle of features.

wdc330i · 10-24-2020, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JST

I'd be interested in the views of the 1er/2er crew here on the M2 Comp, which I liked a lot--have any of you had a chance to drive one? And, yes, I know it's not a convertible, but...

There's one near you right now....https://www.carmax.com/car/19361167

Edit: Wow And then there's this crazy thing--also nearish you:

https://www.bmwcca.org/ads/247146

"late model e30 325i Baur TC2 cabriolet with all original documentation"

JST · 10-24-2020, 04:05 PM

That’s a neat car! I’ve driven one and like it a lot, just curious what others think about how it compares to the 135/240.

JST · 10-28-2020, 10:27 PM

Decent spec 987.2, low miles:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...black-edition/

Not a huge fan of black cars, but otherwise this one has most of what you'd want (save the sport seats). "Black edition" is mostly BS though supposedly had an extra 10 hp.

Josh (PA) · 10-29-2020, 06:33 AM

What ever happened with the Carmax one?

10-29-2020, 06:33 AM	#240
Josh (PA) Hello. Join Date: Mar 2004 Carmudgeonly Ride: '09 X3, '11 328xiT, '11 135i C, '17 c2, '19 X5 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 5,529	What ever happened with the Carmax one? __________________ Josh (PA) - '19 X5 '17 991.2 C2 Cab '11 135i Convertible '11 328xiT '09 X3

10-22-2020, 05:52 PM	#233
John V No more BMWs Join Date: Apr 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: Ram, MS3, CX-5, RX-8 Location: Glenwood, MD Posts: 14,753	I have driven one. The engine is fairly powerful, but the sound is just not good, and it feels gravelly. It to me ruins a lot of what makes the boxster great.

10-24-2020, 10:52 AM	#234
wdc330i dogged Join Date: Dec 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: '22 M440 xDrive GC Posts: 13,293	I’m wondering how many 4-cylinder 718s we’ll see on the used market, once the six cylinders start being widely available. But maybe I’ve already pondered that here. I suspect they will put downward pressure on the 4 cylinder used prices...

10-24-2020, 04:05 PM	#238
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,609	That’s a neat car! I’ve driven one and like it a lot, just curious what others think about how it compares to the 135/240.

10-28-2020, 10:27 PM	#239
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,609	Decent spec 987.2, low miles: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...black-edition/ Not a huge fan of black cars, but otherwise this one has most of what you'd want (save the sport seats). "Black edition" is mostly BS though supposedly had an extra 10 hp.