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Old 09-27-2017, 03:55 PM   #331
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About 10 years ago when I was seriously thinking about a 964 I drove a couple of them and realized just how big a difference Variocam/VANOS has made in torque at low RPM. Both were pretty quick but you needed to wind them out to get anything done; the then-current Boxster S (which I now own, but didn't then) felt like a rocketship in comparison on test drives.
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Old 09-27-2017, 04:01 PM   #332
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About 10 years ago when I was seriously thinking about a 964 I drove a couple of them and realized just how big a difference Variocam/VANOS has made in torque at low RPM. Both were pretty quick but you needed to wind them out to get anything done; the then-current Boxster S (which I now own, but didn't then) felt like a rocketship in comparison on test drives.
You should try a 718s...
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Old 09-27-2017, 04:06 PM   #333
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You should try a 718s...
Eh, probably.

What I should have done is bought that goddamn 964. It'd be worth 2-3x what I paid for it back then.
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Old 09-27-2017, 04:15 PM   #334
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Eh, probably.

What I should have done is bought that goddamn 964. It'd be worth 2-3x what I paid for it back then.
Yep. We should have all been buying Porsches all along. Oops.
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Old 09-27-2017, 04:38 PM   #335
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Yep. We should have all been buying Porsches all along. Oops.
And M3's.

I wonder what will happen with my Cayman R. It's rare and has a cult following, but I also paid a lot so it would need to be a big spike for me to see any real profit.
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Old 09-27-2017, 04:46 PM   #336
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And M3's.

I wonder what will happen with my Cayman R. It's rare and has a cult following, but I also paid a lot so it would need to be a big spike for me to see any real profit.
I think once you start worrying about making money on it or getting your money back or not losing too much money, it's hard to really enjoy the car.

I loved my M3, but I also worried about the VANOS failure and subframe issues all the time. I was worried I would lose the money I spent on it--and more (needing a new engine, etc.)

I should have just addressed the problems head-on and lived with a certain measure on uncertainty.

Who knows, the 2 may end up having some catastrophic issue down the road (it is a relatively new engine--the B58). The difference is, I don't know about it yet and can still enjoy the car!
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Old 09-27-2017, 04:54 PM   #337
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Old 09-27-2017, 05:38 PM   #338
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which makes that 1984 car a steal.
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:16 PM   #339
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I think once you start worrying about making money on it or getting your money back or not losing too much money, it's hard to really enjoy the car.


Which is why I drive my 1M like I do. I'll probably get a reasonable price for it when the time comes, but not sky high like many of them do. But I get to actually enjoy it every day.
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Which is why I drive my 1M like I do. I'll probably get a reasonable price for it when the time comes, but not sky high like many of them do. But I get to actually enjoy it every day.
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