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FC · 11-05-2023, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lemming

I wouldn’t wait for an EV anything.

If you want a preview, rent a Tesla or an Escalade. They weigh about the same. Handle about the same. An EV sports car future looks stupid to me. No thanks.

Get a fun ICE manual now while there’s options.

That's my perspective and I'd be very concerned about the weight and lack of sound killing what makes a Mini special. I casually brought up the car today and almost expected her to say "oh, never mind. It was a crazy idea." But nope, she said she really did like it. She is busy working today (crazy year for her) but we'll need to chat more if this is real and she really wants it.

Now I have to think about logistics for where to park cars if the fleet expands to 5.

I'll need to start making room in the back garage because in bad winter weather (especially this winter when there are only two drivers) it would only make sense for both convertibles to be back there.

JST · 11-05-2023, 02:47 PM

Especially since they aren’t going to be making any of those GTIs anymore.

I’d lean toward the “get it now” camp, too. I’m a little more bullish on EV sports cars than lemming, but there are going to be plenty of those in a few years. ICE is a vanishing breed.

FC · 11-05-2023, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JST

Especially since they aren’t going to be making any of those GTIs anymore.

I’d lean toward the “get it now” camp, too. I’m a little more bullish on EV sports cars than lemming, but there are going to be plenty of those in a few years. ICE is a vanishing breed.

I feel the same way.

Josh (PA) · 11-05-2023, 06:58 PM

Seaside mcs + 540 = same money as m5.... Get your wife what she fell in love with and be happy with your gts

lemming · 11-05-2023, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh (PA)

Seaside mcs + 540 = same money as m5.... Get your wife what she fell in love with and be happy with your gts

I like your math.

FC · 11-05-2023, 07:44 PM

It's not a money thing. If she really wants it, we get it. And yes, if it were a money thing, I would have no problem reducing my budget.

FC · 11-11-2023, 03:37 PM

My wife drove the MCS today. Not the exact car, but a different Special Edition similarly spec'ed. I did not drive it.

What I noticed was a sporty ride but still more comfortable than the R56 MCS with 16"s on. Car had Pirelli P-Zero's on 18" wheels. I was amazed with the level of comfort given how little rubber there was on the tire. The car still handled well even with three adults. It also moved quickly. I would say about the same as the R56 MCS and had good rigidity. Pretty impressive. The roof mechanism was pretty cool and used no latches.

Overall, it was a BIG step up in refinement, equipment, technology, and quality compared to our last mini. My wife loved it.

She is still torn about it, but what I told her was that while the number of cars may not justify it, the reality is that soon enough one or two boys will almost entirely claim use of the GTI, at which point, that leaves the LR4 to her. We all love the LR4 as a family vacation car, but it is old and the tech is ancient. And she doesn't like driving it to the city. She would much rather drive the Mini.

So what I told her was to look at things differently. The LR4 is the oldest car we have. Let's leave it for specific duties and as a back-up vehicle, and driver her car (Mini) everyday and leave the GTI for the kids.

She wants it but feels bad. I may have to overrule her on this and get it for her.

EDIT: I found later that the peak torque (209 lb-ft) arrives at 1250 rpm. That is basically off-idle. Impressive. Also, Mini Coopers are considered VERY reliable since 2014 (current 3rd gen).

Josh (PA) · 11-11-2023, 03:54 PM

Aren't the engines basically 1/2 of a b58? They should be really solid. Would it be a manual? I hope you get it. I've always loved the playful design elements, personality and overall feelof the Mini

FC · 11-11-2023, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh (PA)

Aren't the engines basically 1/2 of a b58? They should be really solid. Would it be a manual? I hope you get it. I've always loved the playful design elements, personality and overall feel of the Mini

Well, the dealer only has one in the color she wants and it's a manual. I can't seem to find any others in that color anywhere.

So for now it's that one or we wait and likely look for a used automatic one with patience.

She likes the idea of automatic so that it is easier for others to drive, but as I told her, the kids will need to learn to drive stick if they want to drive the GTI. She agreed and acknowledged that the manual was more responsive/fun.

Like I said, we will probably get this one. Her only request is that we get white mirror covers. That's easy.

robg · 11-11-2023, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FC

Well, the dealer only has one in the color she wants and it's a manual. I can't seem to find any others in that color anywhere.

So for now it's that one or we wait and likely look for a used automatic one with patience.

She likes the idea of automatic so that it is easier for others to drive, but as I told her, the kids will need to learn to drive stick if they want to drive the GTI. She agreed and acknowledged that the manual was more responsive/fun.

Like I said, we will probably get this one. Her only request is that we get white mirror covers. That's easy.

Wow - very exciting!

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11-05-2023, 06:58 PM	#4
Josh (PA) Hello. Join Date: Mar 2004 Carmudgeonly Ride: '09 X3, '11 328xiT, '11 135i C, '17 c2, '19 X5 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 5,543	Seaside mcs + 540 = same money as m5.... Get your wife what she fell in love with and be happy with your gts __________________ Josh (PA) - '19 X5 '17 991.2 C2 Cab '11 135i Convertible '11 328xiT '09 X3

11-11-2023, 03:54 PM	#8
Josh (PA) Hello. Join Date: Mar 2004 Carmudgeonly Ride: '09 X3, '11 328xiT, '11 135i C, '17 c2, '19 X5 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 5,543	Aren't the engines basically 1/2 of a b58? They should be really solid. Would it be a manual? I hope you get it. I've always loved the playful design elements, personality and overall feelof the Mini __________________ Josh (PA) - '19 X5 '17 991.2 C2 Cab '11 135i Convertible '11 328xiT '09 X3

11-05-2023, 02:47 PM	#2
JST 195 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24,637	Especially since they aren’t going to be making any of those GTIs anymore. I’d lean toward the “get it now” camp, too. I’m a little more bullish on EV sports cars than lemming, but there are going to be plenty of those in a few years. ICE is a vanishing breed.

11-05-2023, 07:44 PM	#6
FC Solving problems Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: M5 / 718 GTS / Cooper S / GTI / LR4 Location: Metro Boston Posts: 25,280	It's not a money thing. If she really wants it, we get it. And yes, if it were a money thing, I would have no problem reducing my budget.

11-11-2023, 03:37 PM	#7
FC Solving problems Join Date: Oct 2003 Carmudgeonly Ride: M5 / 718 GTS / Cooper S / GTI / LR4 Location: Metro Boston Posts: 25,280	My wife drove the MCS today. Not the exact car, but a different Special Edition similarly spec'ed. I did not drive it. What I noticed was a sporty ride but still more comfortable than the R56 MCS with 16"s on. Car had Pirelli P-Zero's on 18" wheels. I was amazed with the level of comfort given how little rubber there was on the tire. The car still handled well even with three adults. It also moved quickly. I would say about the same as the R56 MCS and had good rigidity. Pretty impressive. The roof mechanism was pretty cool and used no latches. Overall, it was a BIG step up in refinement, equipment, technology, and quality compared to our last mini. My wife loved it. She is still torn about it, but what I told her was that while the number of cars may not justify it, the reality is that soon enough one or two boys will almost entirely claim use of the GTI, at which point, that leaves the LR4 to her. We all love the LR4 as a family vacation car, but it is old and the tech is ancient. And she doesn't like driving it to the city. She would much rather drive the Mini. So what I told her was to look at things differently. The LR4 is the oldest car we have. Let's leave it for specific duties and as a back-up vehicle, and driver her car (Mini) everyday and leave the GTI for the kids. She wants it but feels bad. I may have to overrule her on this and get it for her. EDIT: I found later that the peak torque (209 lb-ft) arrives at 1250 rpm. That is basically off-idle. Impressive. Also, Mini Coopers are considered VERY reliable since 2014 (current 3rd gen).